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This is primarily talking about state dependence with ADHD medication (stimulants).

State dependence is when information that is learned while taking ADHD medication is difficult to recall when not in the same physiological state (when not on ADHD meds).

I started taking Vyvanse about 7.5 years ago, and at that time I started learning so much more than I ever have. I hyperfocused on computers, learned how to program in multiple programming languages, I learned a lot about Linux. During that time, I also learned a lot about 3D printing and mechanical engineering, and made a lot of cool things. About 2 years ago, my tolerance to the meds reached a certain threshold where I stopped being able to recall all the things I have learned.

When I take double my prescribed dose (which I am not advising you to do), I can reach that state of clarity and recall everything again, but only for a few hours, and then I crash lasting a few days. It's not healthy for me to continuously do this, and my dose is already too high for my doctor to raise it anymore (90mg concerta).

Today I read about state dependence in a wellness book that has a section about stimulants and ADHD, and it explains why I can't remember or do any of the computer-related things I used to do. I wish there was a way to recall all the information I've learned without having to raise my dose or use any sort of substance. It's really a pickle of a situation.

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[–] Oliper202020 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My experience after I chose to go like 4 months without meds is that after I have been on the meds for a few years I learned within a few months to actually be fully functional without meds, though i still function better on meds, but i can actually learn and get stuff done without meds

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I came off meds against my will (finances) and have been pleasantly surprised at how much has stuck with me.

[–] Oliper202020 3 points 1 year ago

Yea it's incredible that they still help l, i think it's because you unconsciously train your brain

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Write it down and look at the notes later on.
I work in IT and sure do need more time to implement similar stuff at home with similar and limited toys but I can do it.

My suggestion (if you can): Do some days with and some without.

My medication since I am 12 is ritalin 30mg on 60kg body weight (increased from 20mg).

Interesting topic though. Wasnt on my radar at all nor was I "warned"/informed.

[–] FraidyBear 7 points 1 year ago

Sounds like some folks haven't heard the classic highschool burnout phrase, "study high, test high."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Practice makes perfect.

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[–] Thrillhouse 3 points 1 year ago

Could it also equally be that you spend a lot of time on the computer so everything you do there just turns into a blob of sameness?

That happens to me either on or off meds. The best way for me to remember something is to physically write it. Always has been. I would rewrite my notes in school by hand to study.

I don’t know what book you read or the research behind it so I can’t comment there but I would consider that it may not be the meds at all. And oh yeah, this problem has gotten worse for me with age so I enjoy that too.

Some things just stick in my brain better and some things just don’t.