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[–] reddig33 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

‘Last weeks study said it was polyester clothing. The week before that it was fishing nets.

https://www.statista.com/chart/17957/where-the-oceans-microplastics-come-from/

[–] alvvayson 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The link you provided has synthetic clothing at 35% and tire dust at 28%.

The next two biggest categories are city dust and road markings.

It's not really that much of a shocker that a different study finds tire dust as the biggest category.

Fishing nets have never been a big contributor to microplastics. They are a big category of hazardous ocean waste.

[–] reddig33 -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Read the first sentence: "Lost and abandoned fishing gear which is deadly to marine life makes up the majority of large plastic pollution in the oceans, according to a report by Greenpeace." I added the italics. Note also that the OP article is about micro plastics.

[–] CADmonkey 2 points 1 year ago

Fishing nets don't photodegrade into microplastics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah its weird. Isnt vulcanised rubber heavier than water and sinks?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That would work if tires were nothing but rubber, but they're not.

https://e360.yale.edu/features/tire-pollution-toxic-chemicals

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno man. Maybe we should all *checks notes, take trains or something?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good news! Electric cars are heavier and go through tires at a ridiculous pace! 👍

[–] Cort 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't say ridiculous, but you're not wrong about them going through tires faster.

Anecdotal but my phev is only 400 pounds heavier than ice vehicles built in the same frame. The energy saver EV tires are rated for 55000 miles vs 60000 for non energy saver version. The upside to the EV is less particulate matter produced by the brakes which get replaced about half as often thanks to Regen.

If anyone has the numbers comparing the gains/losses between the two is love to see them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PHEV are lighter than EV, the Niro gains 400lbs (over 10%) going from PHEV to full EV and it's already 300lbs heavier going from hybrid to PHEV!

There's also a big difference between what the tires are rated for vs what they usually last... My mother goes through a set of tires every 40k km or so with her Leaf even if the tires are rated for much more and the car's alignment is right on the dot!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At least they burn through far less brake pads. But it is a very correct assessment of tire usage.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It's also been known to be wiping out salmon before they spawn since 2020

https://ecology.wa.gov/blog/january-2023/saving-washington-s-salmon-from-toxic-tire-dust

[–] Dude123 10 points 1 year ago

Remember, if you live near a major road you and your family are breathing in brake and tire dust constantly and it will take years off of your life. Not to mention the lower quality of that shorter life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Such pollution is perhaps unlikely to have a direct impact on issues like climate change, but the potential toxicity for humans, animals, and the broader environment is a prime concern.

So I guess it's likely bad, but for different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Makes sense to me, it's also a big contributor to the smog I breathe and the grime I get tired of dusting off everything in the damn apartment. We can stop blaming my skin particles, they're not that color. And my shoes don't get outside much. But my street feeds straight into the 405.

https://www.dri.edu/tailpipe-emissions-declining-brake-tire-wear-particle-emissions-remain-persistent-and-unregulated/

[–] Selmafudd 4 points 1 year ago

One place I worked my office was in the corner of the warehouse, when we moved warehouses I had to go up onto of the office for some reason and there was a almost a 5cm thick layer of tire and diesel dust on top of it.. I stepped on thinking it was just dirty and my shoe just went through it all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

/c/fuckcars