Are competitive FPSs intended for handhelds?
this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
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Maybe, maybe not. But I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it's only for casual playing.
Well it runs - just not as fast as you want. I personally would never want to play those competitive shooters that need pixel perfect aim on a handheld console… but that’s just me.
I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it’s only for casual playing.
Yes. Why else did CSGO get controller and gyro support? While Valve did not promise anything in that regard, there was the expectation that CS2 would basically be fully optimized for Deck. Maybe it will still happen. The "final" release is nothing but an open beta.
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The shaders should be compiled in advance, did the author skip the shader compilation when launching?
I'm not sure if it's every game but I don't recall ever seeing my deck compile shaders, I thought it just downloaded them
I believe you're correct, because they know the exact hardware they don't need to be compiled for each device unlike how PCs come on every version imaginable.
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CS2 just doesn't precompile shaders. The game just shits itself running on AMD because of that.
The shader cache itself is also broken and gets reset by the game on every restart.
I'm running a 6700XT and weirdly enough it pre-compiled in Linux but not in Windows.
It's really stuttery for a while in Windows, with low GPU usage and erratic frequency, until it normalizes.
I'm getting none of that in Linux, smooth from the start in-game. Only getting some weird fps fluctuation in the start menu.
CS2 compiles shaders on my desktop. It does so every time it updates. Also, why would this make the game worse on AMD? Afaik RADV supports VK_EXT_graphics_pipeline_library, just like Nvidia. Shader compilation performance should be similar between them.
You’d have to be a masochist to actually play this on steam deck or with any controller.
Unless they have some sort of “steam deck only” matchmaking, but even then it’s just not made for controller.
You can use a keyboard and mouse with the steam deck. Probably not super common but definitely doable.
It’s plenty common. I have a dock all set up as do many others!
It's not a standard xbox controller. There's a gyro with several ways to handle it, including flick, which does take a little time to get used to, but works really well as a mouse substitution for such an environment. Some people are just that good with a thumbstick as well and can easily enjoy casual gamemodes.
Steam Deck is a capable beast, even for a game like Counter-Strike.
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Well there's a reason it's not a verified game. Valve is rightfully not targeting the steam deck for it because the gameplay experience wouldn't be good. If you want to still play it that's on you but I don't blame them for not supporting it. It shows that they are serious about cs this time, imo
I like to play all my games on the deck and just dock it for shooters. If they were serious about cs this time they'd optimize it. A lot of people including me still have PC's less powerful than the deck. Plus a competitive game needs to be optimized well enough to run smoothly.
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Fucking embarrassing for Valve, what the fuck is going on over there? This is like Nintendo launching a Mario game that doesn't boot.
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I tried CS2 on my Deck after the update. I only tried against bots on Italy but found that given the hardware, it ran surprisingly OK. 40 FPS with default settings. Obviously the controls are not so great. I've read somewhere later that resetting Steam Input for this game to defaults is required but didn't know that at the time.
Btw I played with the Deck on a stand and my left hand on the controller part while my right hand held a Bluetooth mouse.
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I would totally expect that because controller, but I hadn't considered the specs.
I try finding out what the 2 is even about, and im seeing stuff like...improved smoke grenades, and ability to refund weapons?
What happened to the number 2 man, that used to be a big deal.
It's a new engine, which is more than enough to warrant a new title imo. CS has been practically the same game many years and has been incredibly successful all that time. The community does not want major gameplay changes, just minor improvements. CS as a series is not like COD or Battlefield.
CS2 has much more advanced and consistent smokes, vastly improved graphics, more advanced netcode, competitive improvments alongside a new competitive mode similar to FaceIT, and loads of quality of life improvements. I think this is more than enough to be considered a sequel.
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CS2 is on Source engine 2. Hence the major version bump.
The difference between csgo and cs2 is similar to cs 1.6 to cs source. Its a major change of engine with brings in other changes with it.
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