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Ralph Nader, wary of Trump, offers to help Joe Biden win (wapo.st)

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The political firebrand, long estranged from Democrats, fears fascism will be on the ballot in 2024 and it must be defeated

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[–] who8mydamnoreos 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can he go back and time and stop himself from giving the election to Bush Jr.? I would like to live in a timeline where we avoided that disaster of a presidency

[–] badhops 2 points 1 year ago

as i said in the comment above... classic argument to keep the 2 party system. why waste your vote on a 3rd party. well to make them run better candidates. swe what happen when you allow shitty candidates win... they keep getting worse

[+] [email protected] -14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do you think Gore would've responded to 9/11?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He may have actually responded, as the intelligence report about a Bin laden attack was produced and given to the Bush white house before 9/11.

He also likely would not have gone to war with Iraq over false pretenses, saving trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.

He also might have kicked off a US renewables industry in 2000, putting us ahead of target on clean energy and energy independence, weakening Saudi Arabia, who sponsored Bin laden with their oil money.

Lots of ways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 so you're probably right there, I'm more curious if Gore would've gotten us into the same quagmire in Afghanistan. I've heard Afghanistan made offers to help get OBL, but I'm not sure if Gore would've taken those offers.

Essentially, I'm trying to get an idea for how a Gore presidency would've changed the US' trajectory. I know he was in favor of green energy, but I don't know if he would've put that on the backburner while he dealt with 9/11.

[–] who8mydamnoreos 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait do you think that Bush did a good job? It was a complete failure, we played right into OBL hands. Its even more embarrassing that he basically copied what pancho villa did a hundred years prior, and we still fell for it! I doubt Gore would have bit so hard, and he definitely wouldn’t had invaded Iraq on a fucking lie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How did you get that from my comment? I merely asked how Gore might've responded to 9/11. His response is my main criticism of his presidency, but I don't know if Gore would've done anything differently.

[–] Decoy321 11 points 1 year ago

I doubt he would've waged a war on Iraq.

[–] flossdaily 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We could have used that attitude when he handed the election to Bush. I guess it only took a Republican war of choice and a catastrophic economic collapse to make him realize that no, Democrats and Republicans aren't essentially the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember when Ralph Nader tried to make Ralph Nader win?

[–] badhops 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i sure do... and the classic you will hand the win to team red argument was used successfully yet again

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There's believing something, and then there's evidence