Just community, no need for corny names
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2023
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Afaik "community" is the intended Lemmy term.
If we want to mature and be our own thing it's also a good idea to separate ourselves from Reddit, otherwise Lemmy will always be considered a "Reddit clone" (even though it technically started as one and still is).
Yeah like I enjoy this "voting" system more too, it's just shows both how many people agree and disagree with a comment and it's more informational that way
Well, usenet also had groups --> subgroups, forums have subforums, ... so these terms predated reddit.
I like communities. Fits in with the URL too since it's /c/
Since this is the "fediverse", it makes much more sense to use general terms than things specific to a platform. There's already /kbin, and there may be other link aggregator software platforms that appear in the future, and having a standardised set of vocabulary that all platforms can use makes it much easier for everyone to understand.
/kbin calls them magazines and there's sometimes been some confusion over the term and Lemmy having communities, even though they are the same thing. All the microblogging platforms on the fediverse for example just have "posts" and "boosts", there is no specific term for them like "tweets" on Twitter (there was the "toot" thing for Mastodon for a while, but it was quickly rolled back and hasn't been official for several years).
Don't forget that when you post on Lemmy, you're not posting "to Lemmy", you're posting to the wider "fediverse".
I have seen the term toot thrown around a lot for the name of a Mastodon post.
A bit of back story on this: the Mastodon creator named them toots as a bit for celebrity attention, then, later, he renamed them to posts to be taken seriously. Now people on many different platforms call their posts toots, but post and status are equally valid (the status name comes from the api specification)
Not quite.
Hbomberguy, a leftie, YouTuber, offered to pay Eugen Rochko's development and hosting fees as long as Mastodon posts were called toots. Rochko accepted, not aware that toot can also mean fart (his first language is German). After Rochko realised this and had enough other income that he didn't have to rely on Hbomberguy, he reverted to the old name, but many users still call them toots because it's a more fun word.
Kbin magazines combine a ActivityPub Group ( what a Lemmy calls a "community") with a hashtag search, so they are a bit different than what's on Lemmy.
I just don't know that anyone's actually using the hashtag feed on kbin.
I had no idea. I think that's a great idea esp on new instances to help people get their feeds populated. I'm not sure what you mean when you say hashtag feed, though. Like, just when you search for a hashtag? It's there a way to follow a hashtag separate from a magazine. (Maybe that wouldn't be any different?)
Check out the Microblog tab. That's a stream of content from people using Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma/etc. that isn't being sent to any groups. Kbin allows magazine admins to add hashtags to follow to the magazine, and those search for posts from that microblog stream that contain those hashtags.
When you call it what it is, a community (straight from the documentation), you dont ever have to explain what that means. When you call it a "sublemmy", that means nothing to anyone, and you have to explain it every time . I know which I prefer.
communities sound better
and their name doesnt need to be explained
Even back on Reddit I tended to call them groups, communities, fora, etc. Sublemmy is a cute word but I’d hate to have to say it to a nonline person, and I feel like it gives Reddit too much sway if we just migrate all the terms to this new space
Nonline person, never heard that before. I like it.
well internally (in the context of activitypub) they are called "groups" 🤓
I always felt "subreddit" was silly. I call them communities, even on reddit and that word works for me.
Same. It's nice not having to translate back to normal-person language.
Honestly even on reddit, id call them forums to non reddit users. Subreddits was awkward to use in IRL conversation.
Same, I'd call it a forum to keep clarity outside of the community.
Rather than juggle so many terms, I've started headcanon-ing communities and magazines as generic "subs."
I'm on kbin and they are called magazines, but I think communities are a better catch all. Everyone knows what you mean by that
Magazines is an absolutely terrible name. It makes zero sense
It's a odd choice, especially with actual print magazines becoming more niche. I assume it has some reason which ties into the history of kbin but I'm a relatively new user so not sure.
personally i like the fact that referencing a “subreddit” points to the fact that you are talking about a community that is on reddit, as opposed to the wider community around a topic. for example, if you say “i frequent the futurama community”, people will still not be sure what community you are actually talking about.
i think lemmy should have a unique name system for its communities.
I think instead of sublemmies as we're already a community we combine the two and call ourselves commies.
You don't think anyone else is already using it do you?
I hope not. The designers chose a name and we should stick with it. Reddit has subreddits, Lemmy has communities, kbin has magazines, usenet has groups, forums have (sub) forums. It's all good; forced simplification isn't necessary.
Why does kbin call them magazines?
I think it's because kbin is a shortened term for a rifle (polish maybe) that uses magazines. Don't quote me.
I'm personally sticking to calling it communities.
I would probably call them 'boards'. Communities is too long of a word imo and it makes it sound like the people subscribed all have some kind of shared culture or relationship. That definitely happens in some cases (there are subreddits which have built a community around them) but it's not universal.
What is wrong with using communities? By the way, in kbin they are called magazines.
Actually, on reddit they're reddits, which you can tell from the /r/ subdirectory in the corresponding URL.
I like 'burrows' 'topics' and 'coms', but as long as people understand, I don't really care. Be the change you want to see in the world!