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Comments by agriculture minister seem to signal shift away from focus on organic produce as shoppers choose cheaper meat

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

F%&k productivism. We shouldn't push for lower quality to match inflation, we should keep the same quality and lower the volume. It would be a win-win for people and the environment. Nobody needs to binge tons of meat all year long.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, but that doesn’t bring out votes of the perceived quality of life decreases.

I’d love to see meat prices keeping increasing, but you also need the other prices to keep being accessible.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Producing fewer animal products makes it way easier to produce more plant-based products, both because farming subsidies can be reduced massively and because of all the space freed up previously used to produce animal feed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Half the farmland is used to produce feetstock for meat. So you cut meat prodcution you end up with more land for other crops.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I agree, but that is not what’s happening with the latest bout of inflation: everything is getting more expensive, not only meat.

Ideally, cutting meat production increases meat prices while decreasing other vegetarian alternatives prices. I wish that’s what going to happen, but that’s not what I see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes because quality of life = purchasing power now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you need to get re-elected, a drop on purchasing power is not going to do it. And many people definitely feel that their quality of life is strongly tied to their purchasing power. Are you really equally happy if you are not able to afford the same things you were buying last year?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (-21 children)

It's possible if you make an effort to steer away from advertisement and the consumerism ratrace. I've downsized several times in my life, with rather positive effects on my quality of life.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Sure, but that’s not what consumerism has been preaching, and not how elections are won. If you are interested in an ethical discussion, I fully agree with you. If you are interested in discussing how the world runs, you and I are outliers.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheap meat needs to not be a choice, period. It's a purely modern aberration.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The next step has to be more sweatshops and some slave colonies. Maybe invade a country for cheap oil. Keeps the labor costs down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The only real brexit benefit has been to gtfo out of the production subsidy debacle that is the CAP

It takes the largest slice of the budget and the 'modern' farming methods it promotes are destroying habitats and biodiversity

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


France is urging its farmers to produce more cut-price meat in a major U-turn on factory farming, with inflation hammering demand for organic pork, beef and chicken.

Green algae from nitrates in fertilisers and waste from the region’s intensive pig, poultry and dairy farming have been linked to a number of deaths on its beaches.

But Macron’s wish to steer Europe’s biggest beef producer upmarket appears to have foundered, with 11% food inflation pushing shoppers to snub organic for cheaper meat.

Only “30% of French people now have the means to pay more for quality”, compared with half the population six years ago, said Pascale Hébel, a consumption analyst for data consultants C-Ways.

“Our goal is the reconquest of standard production,” said Gilles Huttepain, a top executive at poultry giant LDC and one of the leaders of industry group Anvol.

Under pressure from the government, supermarkets and animal welfare groups, France had almost turned its back on intensively farmed eggs, with only one in four coming from chickens reared in cages.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Fuckin’ yikes.