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Like I get it there's less people so less content but come on, using bots to just repost shit from reddit? What are we, 9gag now?

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[–] TropicalBlueliner 137 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed. Nobody is interacting with the posts either, just taking up space. I’d prefer less posts with more engagement.

[–] Noxvento 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's why I unsubed worldnews. Too much bot spam for my liking.

[–] Aeoneir 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean you don't want an update on what's happening in Palestine every 30 seconds?

[–] RoyalEngineering 10 points 1 year ago

RUSSIA! REDDIT! TITANIC!

[–] Chunk 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Check out https://lemmy.world/c/moderate_politics we are trying to be a more informed, discussion oriented community. Please stop by!

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[–] s38b35M5 8 points 1 year ago

Guh! I just did the same. 10:1 all the posts were from that community. Didn't even realize it's all bot-posted.

[–] unpainted_apple 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] rbhfd 5 points 1 year ago

Gotta call my mom to tell her the happy news! πŸ’

[–] Mostly_Frogs 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm let me try some of that engagement

[–] Falmarri 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah we're doing engagement over here?

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[–] MiddleWeigh 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I don't like it. There's no one on the other end, the reason I'm here.

It feels unnatural to me. We don't need to force interaction when we're all here to do it.

Plus I'm still mostly sorting by new. They clog it up.

Edit: it's impossible to sort by new now, because of all those damned lemmit posts!!!

[–] Brunbrun6766 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just block the bot, i don't see their posts anymore

[–] MiddleWeigh 7 points 1 year ago

Yea I was just in the process lol me will figure it out!

[–] MiddleWeigh 6 points 1 year ago

Oh look at me all snazzy blocking stuff I must be a real boy!

[–] Zepherion 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go Lemmiwinks! Stop Wikileaks! Sorry guys, I don’t know why this reminded me of that South Park episode… I don’t like those reposts either… ppl should focus on new original content.

[–] MiddleWeigh 4 points 1 year ago

I definitely heard that in my head before I even opened this lol

I think I have successfully plugged the reddileaks!

I know fr. I'm a 'content creator' but not memes or anything. I suck at those.

I'm writing a whole ass life story for no one to read, so yea were working for sure lol!

[–] eric5949 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is lemmit a bot instance or something?

[–] MiddleWeigh 7 points 1 year ago

It's a reddit repost bot. I think it may be a whole instance, with one repost bot, I'm not really sure.

[–] souperk 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TLDR Bots can be good, bots can also be bad. We need to find a balance.

I feel the value of Reddit, Lemmy, and any similar platform does not come from the post itself but (a) the interactions within the comments and (b) the sorting based on votes.

These two features make information here reliable and obtaining reliable information becomes more productive.

For example, an article expresses information verified by a single person or a team, but when that article is posted here many people read it and share their opinion. I can go through the comments and determine how bullshit or not that article is. Also, the comments contain quotes, summaries and relevant information which one would have to spend hours researching. Lastly, when multiple articles are posted on a community sorting allows me to find the articles worth my time.

It does not matter if the post was created by a bot, but whether humans interacted with it.

With all that, I would like to agree with some people here that bots can be a threat. If the content they produce overwhelms the humans interacting with the content.

If human content is buried under thousands of bot posts, noone will interact with it. We need lemmings to feel they are valued by their communities, they shouldn't have to compete with emotionless robots.

[–] MiddleWeigh 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a super well said take.. I like the part about the worth being in the comments. I agree. I'm fine with bots, just not spam, or reposts of a thread that requires some type of engagement with OP themselves.

Also if I sort by all and new, I'd rather not see a million bot posts before I find a real person. Since this is a small community, we are easily overrun by automation. There's definitely a balance to be had.

And some bots I like, like the tldr bot

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sorry but I don’t agree with this logic. Smaller communities are more susceptible to drought. Content is a water supply. I moderate a magazine for The Office (woo woo, shout out) and I bring in content from Reddit as often as I can. It’s a temporary measure to increase the legitimacy of the site.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's my opinion too. The only thing people come to these type of sites for is the content and community. Link-copying bots improve the former and improve the opportunities for the latter. It's all upsides and no downsides as far as i can see.

[–] ulu_mulu 10 points 1 year ago

I agree, as long as it's link to articles and not copying text posts, it's a good measure to help small communities take off.

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[–] MrsDoyle 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, this has been irking me too! There is enough "real" content here to keep me happy and interacting. I just scroll past the bot stuff now.

[–] MiddleWeigh 4 points 1 year ago

Especially within the last few days the content has become way more populated. Even sorting by new, there is usually at least a comment, and that's all I can really ask for. I blocked the lemmit bot cause no one was interacting

[–] Frellwit 3 points 1 year ago

I just block the repost bot users/communities.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have a problem with bots mirroring Reddit content as long as it limits itself to not overwhelm Fediverse communities with more content than the people subscribing to it can comment on. Bots should ideally keep an eye on that and throttle themselves on that basis.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the lemmy instance that's only for reddit reposts is a great way to go about it. You always know what you're in for if you sub anything there, and it's not taking up space on other servers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, what Lemmy instances should I be searching up if I DO want reddit reposts in my feed? I haven't been seeing many myself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lemmit.online is one I know of. Each community is a reddit board. It pulls the subs via RSS so there are no comments, just the original post.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm fine with reposting stuff like News, where it's relatively impersonal and I'm not necessarily concerned with comments.

But I also like having more in depth conversations on the creative stuff. Just having bots post that feels impersonal.

I guess it depends on the magazine.

[–] saucyloggins 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good viewpoint I think. News is ok. Not sure how you filter that though. I’d rather have bots pulling news from direct sources whether that be world events, game news etc rather than Reddit.

I was torn at first but then I realized my gut feeling when I see them is to not upvote or comment on them. So why have them??

[–] L3s 2 points 1 year ago

Other people converse on posts other than the OP's though, so commenting on a bot post isn't worthless. Personally I feel the bot posts are helping, my bot posts have been decently engaging, some have a lot of discussions in them

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, it feels cheap and pointless. If we wanted Reddit content that badly we’d still be on Reddit.

[–] RisingSwell 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I want the reddit content, I just don't want reddit itself.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

If we wanted Reddit content that badly we’d still be on Reddit.

Idk why you personally are here, but many migrants (myself included) did NOT leave reddit because we dislike reddit's content; we left because the site is controlled an unaccountable Elon/Zuck wannabe whose every decision the last decade has made the site worse. Getting reddit's content (or something close to it) without contributing clicks to Spez's dreams of a big payday is EXACTLY why I'm here.

[–] Sektor 9 points 1 year ago

Reddit addiction is strong.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

if it makes ya feel better those bots will die come july

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Depending on how the bot is made, you don't need an API to scrape a website, and could be implemented to a specific sub.

[–] pennomi 3 points 1 year ago

Will they? Is Reddit turning off their RSS feeds too?

[–] dreadedsemi 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we hate 9gags here too?

[–] firipu 27 points 1 year ago

Everyone everywhere all at once hates 9gag

[–] GustavoM 6 points 1 year ago

HAHA NICE ONE HUMAN. IM TOTALLY NOT A BOT

[–] Ketchup 6 points 1 year ago

I feel like we need to make the opposite happen. We make great posts that are shared on Reddit. Sure the awards that will be given will only profit Reddit, but watching the mods furiously delete the posts will be enough of a reward… or, you know. Spite

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i haven't tried this yet, but here you go: https://kbin.social/m/BotIt

edit: wow major brain fart. you DON'T want bots. i thought this was like "can we not just use bots?" my bad

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So far the only users I block are bots that post from reddit. Annoying stuff that is.

[–] StarManta 3 points 1 year ago

Some reposts might make sense, like I wouldn’t mind a bot that reposts from /r/news over here for example. But to crosspost AITA and AskReddit posts is just stupid.

[–] mintberrycrunch 2 points 1 year ago

1000% agree.

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