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I mean Trilium is fantastic app, lots of potential but the developer is struggling on his own, maybe it's because it's younger than logseq or maybe because is open source compared to obsidian. I think it's the best note-taking/knowledge-base/second-brain i know it virtually could link everything you posses toghter to create a gigantic wiki, so much potential. Plus it has its own self hostable syncing server and web app. Guys give it a look and tell me what you think

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I’d want to love it…

but as ridiculous as it sounds, for something like this to be really useful to me I unfortunately need a mobile app. a web-app seems hard to realize for a real e2e encryption & sync - for my scenario :(

I’m aware how much effort this is already… it looks good but as much as I want to use it, I can’t due to my workflow requiring a mobile device app (iOS in my case)

but it does look really promising!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Bro I get it, I actually need an android app but he's a single developer and h can't do all of that on his own. For now I write markdown files on my phone and import them when I can.

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[–] kenblu24 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

when I saw the title I thought it was this old thing: https://trillian.im/

[–] gornar 5 points 2 years ago

Me too! Ex-trillian users....unite?

[–] KazuyaDarklight 2 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've had a look at it before but I just prefer Markdown and I'm already heavily invested with a different application so really wouldn't want to move. There are some features I really like, for example the "clone notes" I think is a really interesting feature that essentially creates a note "symlink".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, I was very invested in logseq before but then I just imported the markdown in and started using trilium and fell in love. To each their own

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, looks pretty cool, I'll probably check it out

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Thanks man, I really got invested in this project, I personally use it but I don't have the skills to help directly.

[–] ulu_mulu 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good question, I never heard of it, but I checked it now, looks quite powerful, going to try it, thanks for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

No problem man. Thank YOU for caring about this project.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really can’t tell - does it work on top of Markdown flat files or not? Based on the mention of an exporter, I’d guess not.

Part of the reason I moved from TiddlyWiki to Obsidian was to get my writing into plain text files, so anything that doesn’t interface with the OS file system is off the table for me from the get-go. (Part of the reason I care about this is so that I’m not locked into a specific app and can use VS Code to browse and edit as needed, or build a static site from my files, etc.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no for now, it uses a database that renders it more powerful but can import and export markdown effortlessly. Editing directly in markdown should be a feature tho for those who want to use file systems

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This could be a very important point for why it isn't more used. For example, i only use markdown files, which allows me to manage them in git, edit and navigate via VimWiki, and visualize in Obsidian.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't have the skills to properly answer, sorry.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He does, what is his @? Thank you for the information.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Amazing man, I'm so happy for you, I will check out minio too seems intersting, good luck with your research!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is this better than zim? Is this in the Debian repos?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I can't compare, I never used Zim, sorry. If I remember correctly it is, I personally got it with flatpack.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this similar to Notion?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Seems like it misses some key features from Notion. Notion is awesome. Trilium seems cool too, but it's not enough to make me leave Notion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have you tried Anytype? It's a combination of Notion and Obsidian, and it's end-to-end encrypted, and everything is stored on your device. Still in alpha, but it has a lot of features already. Because it's in alpha, they only give access to people who attend an online presentation of the app. But it's worth it. And as soon as it exits alpha, the plan is to open source it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A fellow Anytype user here. It went into beta a week or so ago! I believe anyone can sign up and start using it now.

It’s great. Similar to Notion but the way it structures notes is different. Bit of a learning curve if you want to use all of its features, but the basics are the same as Notion. It’s all end-to-end encrypted which gives me peace of mind. They plan to open source the code. Give it a try!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That's amazing! Anytype is one of the greatest note-taking apps I've ever tried, and there doesn't seem to be anything it cannot do. So happy to see others using and recommending it.

I updated the Android app and noticed there's a new desktop version as well, but I'm having issues updating it on Linux, so I just assumed it's still in alpha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kinda weird that they already advertise it as open source when they haven't done that yet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Seems like it is on their roadmap to open the source next quarter. I'll keep my eye on it in the mean time. Looks very interesting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Damn seems very cool, I will give it a look, thanks man.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Does the note encryption use the same password for all notes? Or can each note have their individual password?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You can encrypt single notes or entire subrtees with each their own password I think

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I think each not can have their own password.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Looks very interesting. Apparently it uses its own file format. This is a little bit of a problem, because it forces you to rely on this software to access your notes, even if an export to Markdown is possible. But often times these exports of large note databases are not tidy, they may be missing features/information that didn't export well.

So i personally would only ever use a note taking app that is based on text files. This of course is harder to manage, but can be done, like VimWiki or Obsidian have shown.

Maybe if it could be extended for text file as basic storage, it could get a broader user base.

[–] sudormuk 1 points 2 years ago

I have been using it for the past 6 months and it has been amazing. It's similar to Obsidian, but can be self hosted and has some great features. Definitely recommend!

[–] mulcahey 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On this topic... Why doesn't anyone talk about Standard Notes? It's free, E2E encrypted, has mobile apps, and supports Markdown (for a reasonable subscription fee). Kinda checks every box...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Why not Joplin? It's free.

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