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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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[–] iforgotmyinstance 105 points 1 year ago (7 children)

ACAB

Don't agree? Ask their wives.

[–] girltwink 51 points 1 year ago

This young trans girl i know was kicked out by her parents and moved to my city. She was hatecrimed a few weeks after she moved, and went to the police. She was convinced that they were on her side. One of the cops gave her his phone number and she got the impression that he was interested in her and was going to hook up with him. My friends and i very emphatically talked her out of it. I wonder if she would've survived.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Nobody has ever written a hit song called fuck the fire department.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] w2tpmf 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You made the statement true by adding the word "hit".

Vincent E. L. did in fact make a some by that name ... it was not a hit though.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

We need the ability to tag users on Lemmy so that when we figure out that someone is a tankie or an anti-Canadian propagandist we can tag them so that the next time we see them comment we know they are a bad faith actor and can respond appropriately (and by appropriately I mean not wasting our time trying to have a good faith discussion.)

EDIT:

NegativeYoda said that Sync for Lemmy had the functionality I was looking for so I checked it out.

It does.

I was able to (temporarily) highlight NY in red like a banned user and tag him as a tankie. This week makes my lemmy experience much less frustrating. I've ashtray done the same (for real) to several obvious bad actors so I don't get drawn into a discussion with someone who has no intention of participating in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Basically how I used the Reddit Enhancement Suite tag manager.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes. There are several users here now who are bad faith actors. It would be great to be able to tag them. That way I wouldn't try to engage in conversation just to become frustrated by their bad faith arguments and insults before recognizing their names. I don't want to block them because I want to be able to make good faith responses to their nonsense but I want to know that they're trolls so I don't get involved in a discussion that isn't going to go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Thanks for doing that. I have a similar approach.

I really want federated social media to work, and the extremist propaganda is killing it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel that the ability to tag users is the only thing that Lemmy is missing for me. Maybe all of the actions of these bad actors will inspire the creation of a tagging system.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

You know, I hadn't heard the term "tankie" before coming to Lemmy/Kbin, and at this point I'm lost again on what it's supposed to mean. I have a general idea but it seems to mostly just be a malleable catch-all for "someone I don't like who possible sort of leans one way a bit on some things". Like how "boomer" has become super over-ueed boogeyman term for "someone older than me I don't like".

Seems like a lazy way to categorize tribally, and group people as "others". Or am I getting it totally wrong?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Tankies are auth left. They support the policies of Stalin, the CCP, et al and are staunch soviet union defenders and revisionists. It's an old term from the 80s in the UK

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

A planned state economy isn't a leftist ideal.

Leftism does its best to tear down hierarchies, tankies have a problem with the way economics are handled, and the existing hierarchies, but that's only because they want to be the ones in charge of both.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

What a tankie actually is, is a ML who supports violent force against a population - Hence being named after the Soviets driving tanks into Hungary to stop a revolution.

Right wingers have taken this word and think it applies to anything left wing they don’t like when it’s just a leftist anti-authoritarity term used for ML chuds.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tankies are angry leftists. They're the alt-left that the extreme right always complains about. I suspect that many of them are actually neo-Nazi trolls trying to prove that they aren't so bad by cosplaying as tankies. They're bad faith actors.

[–] AngryCommieKender 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm an angry leftist, but I ain't no tankie. I'm pissed cause I'm middle aged, and have been dealing with over a century of outright lies from the rich.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a pragmatic leftist. I know that being angry and demanding the murder of all rich people and government officials isn't going to happen. We need to get organized like the christofascists are and use the system. Until we do the christofascists will continue to rise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only reason I fear revolution is because I fear if my side wins, we'll govern peacetime as we would during war.

Really becomes hard to judge who your allies are when things get ugly, and there are way too many covert narcissists that know how to game their way to control.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There won't be a revolution in Canada. If the tankies try there are only two possible outcomes. The tankies ends up in prison or the tankies end up dead. Your taking about using a few Gravy Seals with military style guns against a national armed forces and police that number in the hundreds of thousands with real military weapons, APCs, tanks, planes, etc. A bunch of military fetishist with murder fantasies don't stand a chance. It's all fun and games until a bullet rips through one of your comrades chests and it becomes obvious that they're shooting white people.

Just ask Ashley Babbit and the idiots that were around her when she died. The attack on the Senate wasn't as fun after that happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Tankie is all about embracing the tanks. They're the authoritarian left.

Primary beliefs (all stupid and wrong): the Soviets and People's Liberation Army can do/did no wrong. Russia is still Soviet and still the good guys. Ukraine is a conspiracy from the West that is actually Nazi. Any geopolitical problems are the fault of the West who behaves as a complete bloc and is literally only motivated by the capital interest of billionaires. Africa and the subcontinent are the world good guys (just conveniently ignore literally anything bad that happens there). Lots of Islamophobia.

As with all authoritarians, it's all about conspiracy theories. If you try to argue with them, they simply don't believe counterfactuals or will shift goal posts and start talking about something else entirely.

Most of the angry leftists you encounter, especially in these parts, lean much more towards anarchism. Very different from tankies.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recall someone saying the term originates somewhere online, and describes literally those who are cool with the tanks coming out and government authoritarianism, so long as the people being run over by the tanks are seen as fascist righties.

But the other comment sums it up pretty well, the lefty extremist Boogeyman is real, it's just a tiny minority being amplified. The right don't like 'em, the rest of us don't like 'em either.

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[–] negativeyoda 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sync has this functionality if you pay for it

I just use the very free and very effective block function

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[–] obinice 58 points 1 year ago

It's not like people hate cops because they want to, or enjoy it. They want to love and be proud of their community's police, they want to feel safe and truly looked out for and cared for.

Unfortunately that's far, far from reality, and here we are.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank the police coming straight from the underground...

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[–] GrammatonCleric 10 points 1 year ago

Tankie, Commies and Bootlickers, oh my!

[–] Lord_McAlister 4 points 1 year ago
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