this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2023
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Taken from here:

https://landgeist.com/2023/09/02/annual-working-hours-in-europe/

https://landgeist.com/2023/08/22/annual-working-hours-in-asia/

Some other countries if somebody is curious:

  • Brazil: 1708
  • Canada: 1689
  • Mexico: 2137
  • South Africa: 2191
  • USA: 1765
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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Japan and South Korea seem low, but keep in mind that they have a huge issue of people being expected to work overtime without documenting it.

[–] WowSuchInternetz 21 points 1 year ago

There is a large part time worker population in Japan. If you remove part timers the average is around 2000 hours for 2019

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

First thing I noticed as well. Unreported overtime I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In South Korea you are not allowed to work more than 52 hours a week. Generally, you work approximately 40 hours a week.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

40 is what you are allowed to report, and doesn't count compulsory participation in dinners and karaoke/noraebangs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Are there strikes in KR regularly?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think this accounts for unpaid hours and the not at all voluntary socials in some countries such as Japan.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wtf is this? Why are the colors not the same number for both maps?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably to better highlight the local differences for both areas. The entire scale is significantly higher for the bottom map.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But the colours should reflect that. This map makes it seem like people in China and India work same hours like some European countries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

yeah lol, they could have just picked new colors for the new bottom bins and it would be objectively better without tradeoffs

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hardworking Germans and lazy Greeks, amiright!?!? /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing within Germany: the wealthier the person the less hours need to be spend working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also, in Germany, it is still common for married women with children to work half-days only.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it doesn't make sense to compare annual hours worked by employee.

Instead, only annual hours by person living in that region should be compared. Because otherwise, more part-time workers (meaning more working hours in total) dilute and decrease the average.

[–] absurdAuroch 5 points 1 year ago

While that statistic would also be interesting, that would be dominated by completely different factors: pensioners, female employment, duration of education

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if these numbers are correct they dont tell the whole story. Im moving from hungary to sweden and the stress and amountof work people do is a fraction of whats in hungary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder how work 'intensity' could be measured. Maybe intensity is only measurable through indirect means like prevalence of overworking-related diseases or a calculated number considering annual working hours and productivity, adjusting GDP per capita for relative productivity...

[–] telllos 10 points 1 year ago

If you work with Danish people, good luck catching anyone after 3pm.

Good for them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Denmark doing it right

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

40 hours a week x 50 weeks a year is 2,000 then whatever holidays on top of that. I can see 1765 being right for the US.

[–] Banda 8 points 1 year ago

Seems low to me. There are 12 federally recognized holidays. So 2 weeks vacation plus 2 weeks and 2 days of holidays is still about 1900 hours. That’s if you work zero hours over overtime too.

[–] neblem 2 points 1 year ago

At least more salaried workers will be paid overtime with the new rules thus week in the US.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't like that the colour scales are different ranges between the maps. Makes it look like China works less hours than Greece unless you look closely enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Interesting that Russia went from one of the highest in Europe to one of the lowest in Asia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Horrible maps, arbitrary scales that arent even equivalent across maps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck me, I'm gonna go over 3k this year

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sorry not buying it. All of the European top countries are pulling these numbers out of their asses.

Edit: misunderstanding, I mean Russia, Poland and Creek.

[–] drudoo 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Working 37-40h is fulltime with 6 weeks of vacation + national holidays, this makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Misunderstanding, by top I mean Russia, Poland, creek. I am Finnish, so Nordics are ok

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Source: dude just trust me