This trade is bananas. Why would Brad tear apart one of the strongest contending teams? KP is unproven in the playoffs while Smart is battle tested.
this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
54 points (95.0% liked)
NBA
5093 readers
12 users here now
| East - Atlantic |
|---|
| Boston Celtics |
| Brooklyn Nets |
| New York Knicks |
| Philadelphia Sixers |
| Toronto Raptors |
| East - Central |
|---|
| Chicago Bulls |
| Cleveland Cavaliers |
| Detroit Pistons |
| Indiana Pacers |
| Milwaukee Bucks |
| East - Southeast |
|---|
| Atlanta Hawks |
| Charlotte Hornets |
| Miami Heat |
| Orlando Magic |
| Washington Wizards |
| West - Northwest |
|---|
| Denver Nuggets |
| Minnesota Timberwolves |
| Oklahoma City Thunder |
| Portland Trailblazers |
| Utah Jazz |
| West - Pacific |
|---|
| Golden State Warriors |
| Los Angeles Clippers |
| Los Angeles Lakers |
| Phoenix Suns |
| Sacramento Kings |
| West - Southwest |
|---|
| Dallas Mavericks |
| Houston Rockets |
| Memphis Grizzlies |
| New Orleans Pelicans |
| San Antonio Spurs |
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
It is pretty bananas. Let it not be said that Brad is afraid to shake shit up though!
It sounds like he really needed to make a big move with Porzingis, and after the Brogdon framework fell apart he wasn't willing to nuke the whole trade. It is crazy though. I've been watching Smart for a long time. It's gonna be weird without him on the team.~___~
Oh man, I trust Brad but this is a huge gamble. Smart is the heart & soul of the team and this will be a major shock to the locker room... The fans are going to absolutely hate the trade and will have very very little patience with Porzongis.
It re-shapes the team. Running it back the same way wasn't going to work. I like the shape up. Also ads a stretch 4 for them that changes their offensive dynamic. Smart is too inconsistent on offense and that definitely hurt them in the playoffs.
Yeah I agree that they had to shake things up, the current group seemed to have hit their ceiling.
If the Muscala and Gallinari to DC rumor is true, did we really just trade KP and Beal for the 2019-20 Thunder?
Beal's trade was handicapped by his no trade clause so they were always going to get screwed on that. And KP could have opted out and walked for nothing, so whatever value they can scrape up for him is a just a bonus.
I'm not exactly sure that the Wizards got full value for Beal and Porzingis...
I'm not a Celtics fan but I actually like this gamble on Porzingis for them. He had a great season and while the Celtics have been close I feel like after the loss to my Heat they did need to shake things up. I guess this means they're keeping Brown? Also Smart to the Grizz means no more Dillon Brooks?
1 - Yes (I don't think was ever a question)
2 - see #1
If I have all the details correct:
Grizzlies get Marcus Smart
Wizards get Tyus Jones, Gallinari, Muscala, Boston's 35th pick
Boston gets Porzingis, Grizzlies 2023 1st round pick, and 2024 1st round pick (via Golden State)
One might say that Brad Stevens is betting on the potential Ja implosion in the next 2 years
The 2024 pick is conferred via Golden State, so we'd need the dubs to implode in 2 years.
I don't understand this trade at all...maybe it'll make more sense in the next day or two, but it feels like Celtics traded away Smart for very little despite it being a good draft year.
The Celtics didn't have a 1st round draft pick this year so I don't think the quality of the draft class factors much into it. But who knows? Maybe they'll find a diamond in the rough with the Grizzlies 2023 and 2024 pick.
Feel like Smart was starting to fade a little, but he fits the Grizz really well (both in terms of culture and covering for the first part of the season with Ja out).
I like what the Celtics have done here... All comes down to whether Porzingis stays healthy
Love this for the Grizz ❤️ We get a DPOY and leader who replaces Brooks in the starting lineup, and we ship out two late firsts we have zero need for and a small guard who never fit well next to Ja for someone who will be playing big time minutes. We basically filled two or three needs by bringing in one player. PLUS Smart is locked in to a very reasonable contract.
Great move for the Grizz. Sad day for Celtics fans.
tough to lose these kind of fan favourites for sure. but you'll be hailing Brad Stevens as a genius if it pans out! haha
This breaks my heart. I wanted Smart to win a championship with the Celtics so badly.
I'm sure it's probably the right move, but god damn I hate it.
So wait ... I haven't really seen KP play but, who's gonna handle the ball and, you know, not turn it over for the Celtics again?
Presumably it'll be White, Brogdan, and Pritchard.
you gotta give something good to have something good, so they sent away dpoy Smart to get....1 year of Porzingis?!??
Don't talk about the Leprecorn like that
As a Lakers fan, I hope the Celtics blow it up.
As a Celtics fan, I hope that the Lakers try to keep the same rotation. (I am joking)
Again, as a Celtics fan, I am not going to be too offend if the Celtics do blow it up. They got lucky during the last rebuild and only missed the playoffs one year. If this iteration doesn't last, it would just be karmic justice.