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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I still can't understand why americans still tolerate tip culture.

We don't have mandatory tips in Europe and still have people working at McDonald's or similar restaurants : In France, it's even one of the biggest employer of the country.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not going to engage in any class warfare... restaurant staff actually get LESS than minimum wage, because tips are supposed to offset the loss. Of course they're going to want more money; they probably NEED it. Having said that, I rarely have two dimes to scrape together, and my tip limit is 15%, give or take. I mean, I'm not going to count it out to the penny, I'm not that much of a tightwad, but I've got my own expenses. If I can't realistically afford to eat out, I'll just make a sandwich at home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about making employers responsible for actually paying their employees?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Employers will never do this. They would rather allow their employees to starve.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not in California - in LA they get $17/hr + tips.

The biggest advocates for tipping culture are the restaurant workers - if they were paid commensurately they’d lose money since it’d be all taxable. And we all know that tipped employees all definitely mark the accurate amount of cash tips received on their taxes each year…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

restaurant staff actually get LESS than minimum wage, because tips are supposed to offset the loss.

In the US, tipped minimum wage + tips must be greater than or equal to regular minimum wage. If not, employers must make up the difference.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does anyone have a concern about what happens when NOT leaving a tip at these places? I don't enjoy tipping before I have received service (fast food) but am unsure of the ramifications of not doing so 😬

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait you have to tip before getting anything? US tipping culture is so fucked holy shit.

edit: also the thought of tipping for fast food is fucking ridiculous lmfao. You threw it into the deep fryer asshole I'm not tipping you for that

[–] Willer 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] RomanesEuntDomus 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Willer 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried to reply to a comment here and it would just throw a language_not_allowed

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[–] dystop 3 points 1 year ago

Failure. Failure. Failure.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I only tip at full service restaurants, barber shops, and for specialized full services that I want prompt responses (bars, hotels, rideshares).

Convenience stores, fast food, self service kiosks, medical services, oil changes, I'm not tipping you for doing a low skilled task or something insurance covers.

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