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I recently installed Windows in dual boot with Linux (on two different SSDs) and I noticed that Windows automatically "shuts down" or stops the HDD if it is not being used.

I have a HDD (WD) connected by SATA cable where I usually keep my games. The HDD is not always in use but it is always constantly running and honestly the noise it makes is quite noticeable. I'm sure I don't have any program in the background using it constantly.

I have already tried to solve this problem using hdparm and hd-idle and although in theory they work I still hear the noise from the HDD.

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[–] bobthecowboy 11 points 1 year ago

You may want to research this some more. Spinning the drive up and down adds wear on the mechanical parts, and will lead to the drive failing a lot sooner.

Maybe you're okay with that tradeoff, just thought you should at least be aware of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Checkout smartctl. You can either force shutdown immediately or after some idle time. Command is something like this:

smartctl -n -s standby,VALUE /dev/sda with value either "now" or something between 0 and 255. From the manpage:

Values from 1 to 240 specify timeouts from 5 seconds to 20 minutes in 5 second increments. Values from 241 to 251 specify timeouts from 30 minutes to 330 minutes in 30 minute increments. Value 252 specifies 21 minutes. Value 253 specifies a vendor specific time between 8 and 12 hours. Value 255 specifies 21 minutes and 15 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Value 252 specifies 21 minutes.

That's interestingly specific. Any idea why?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

252 * 5 sec = 1260 sec or 21 min. I wonder what 254 does...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] shmanio 1 points 1 year ago

Also, why is 255 21 minutes and 15 seconds? And why is there no 254?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If your only concern is noise (and not saving power), then the easiest solution is to just sound-proof your case - install some foam pads or something to dampen the noise. Check out https://www.quietpc.com/acousticmaterials to get an idea of what's out there and what you can use, but even simple random foam that you'd get in parcels would work to start off with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hdparm has 2 -(Yy) flags that should work for you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fact I tried it and it did work, and I could create a script that does it automatically, the only problem is that how can I make the script detect that there are no processes that depend on the HDD?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If that's your goal I would set the apm on the disk so it spins down quickly when not active.

hdparm -B 50 -S 30 /dev/disk

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The hdparm -B and -S options should allow you to have your drive automatically spin-down when inactive, but they don't work on all dives (eg. my NAS has two shucked WD white that seem to just ignore those settings). If those fail, you could schedule a hdparm -y to spin down the drive periodically.

Make sure to read man hdparm as there are some dangerous options.

PS: there's also https://github.com/adelolmo/hd-idle - I've not tried it out yet, but it seems promising

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A HDD shouldn't make so much noise. I have a NAS with 4 drives, it produces almost no noise. I think that you have to check the SMART values of your drive. Just to make sure that your drive is not dying.

[–] lka1988 1 points 1 year ago

I think the fan in my Sabrent 4-bay drive enclosure is louder than the hard drives themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe you can unmount the HDD, then no process can access it and hd-idle could work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I tried it and it didn't work... Thanks for the idea actually, I hadn't thought about it.