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    [–] GameWiz 44 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I like Linux, I hate the app names. It's confusing as hell, especially if you are looking for some app that functions the way you imagine, then they name something weird like Nautilus instead of file explorer lmao.

    [–] Evono 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    For some reason people get all ways extra fabulous when they make open source Software and need a fancy name instead of a great descriptive one...

    Or they could name it atleast nautilus the file explorer or something.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    It's actually called "GNOME Files" nowadays. And it's had the moniker "File Manager" for ages in the desktop entries for most distros, even if the official name was "Nautilus".

    I actually feel the other way around... if they had just called it "File Explorer" it'd come off as if they are getting "extra fabulous", because it implies the other file explorers are not really THE "File Explorer".

    Imagine if when Google launched Chrome they had decided to name it "Web Browser" instead of "Google Chrome".

    [–] Dick_Justice 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    lol, thaat is so true. It's never just "File Explorer", is it?

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    [–] MrGeekman 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    It doesn’t exactly help that there’s like 5-10 of each kind of thing.

    [–] njordomir 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    For me personally, having 5-10 of everything is good. I find what I like the best and you find what you like best. It can make extra work, but if you subtract out all the time I'd spend fighting the windows UI or looking at ads and "recommended content", I think we may actually come out on the better end of things.

    [–] MrGeekman 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    While it can be great for an end-user, it's a nightmare of tech support. It's just another reason why Linux will never be commonly used on PCs. It also leads to some applications missing critical features because there are three other programs like it, vying for the attention of programmers. For example, there are three applications for making it easier to run Windows applications on Linux - Lutris, PlayonLinux, and Bottles. Personally, I prefer Lutris, but it isn't always great about automatically installing dependencies, though it probably doesn't help that there are like a hundred Linux distributions.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    I still remember thinking, "wtf is a nano and why should i sudo it?"

    [–] GameWiz 2 points 2 years ago

    I was a linux noob back in the day and was looking for a video converter or something but then the app is called handbrake lmao.

    [–] njordomir 3 points 2 years ago

    I believe both Xfce and Cinnamon have a setting for generic app names: i.e. "Firefox" becomes "Web Browser" & "Nautilus" becomes "File Manager". I always thought this feature was great.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    The KDE menu shows the package manager's description of each app below the name. I think you can swap it so the description is the highlighted name and the actual app name is smaller below it

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    [side-eyes PCManFM]

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    [–] atretador 32 points 2 years ago

    Don't worry guys, I know how to fix this. I'll just create another package manager!! That should do it

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

    I love simplicity and convenience. I just don't like giving up control.

    [–] Marduk73 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No lie, it's got to the point that it's more convenient to use Linux. Windows has become very intrusive with trying to help, privacy issue landmines you have to navigate, it's not unpleasant to use Windows. It's just more work to do it.

    [–] HERRAX 8 points 2 years ago

    The windows 11 settings menus are complete abominations, and the search function is about as much help as just screaming what you're looking for at the screen.

    [–] tdawg 1 points 2 years ago

    I think the big difference is that linux actually has tools and communities to help you fix your problem. It's just that linux's tools (and their communities) aren't always the most friendly

    [–] regeya 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The person who made this has never had to deal with Windows driver issues obviously

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    This feels like a comment from 1997. Aside from occasionally updating video drivers for a new video game, I can't remember the last time I had to maintain--much less fix--a driver.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

    three words

    specialized proprietary hardware

    :'|

    [–] regeya 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Oh! Apparently I'm in 1997, then. Remarkable that they have Windows 11, then. I have a machine where the Microsoft provided drivers cause screen blanking when hardware accelerated video plays. Installing the AMD drivers fixes that, but I've yet to figure out what the magic sauce is to prevent Windows Update from overwriting part of the drivers that Adrenalin installs. One boot after installing and the machine works great, then the next boot it'll just be a black screen of death. At least AMD's installer helpfully makes a restore point.

    [–] Tom_Dude 2 points 2 years ago

    Sounds like my experience with Manjaro lol

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    To anyone that isn't blessed with open-source hardware, or proprietary hardware created in the past 5 years, it's a nightmare

    [–] MrGeekman 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I second this. I’ve really only had to modify one driver in the seven years that I’ve been using Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Looks like your multiple comments on the same thread driver needs an update.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

    My fav is when shit doesn't work and Windows is like "would you like me to help you?". Sure, go ahead, I've got nothing better to do. Maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket. Chances are better I'll win the jackpot.

    [–] TONKAHANAH 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Thing is, I use Linux cuz it allows to have simplicity and convenience where those things are of value to me.

    Not having an online always connected local user account is simplicity to me.

    Having file permissions changeable with a simple command rather than having to fuck about a ui and registry is simplicity to me.

    Having an os that's under my control is convenient for me.

    Having a user interface that suits my wants/needs and has ample options for customization is convenient for me.

    [–] Zaros 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Things that are simple are often not simple to use. Things that are simple to use are often complex. Although, hammers also exist so it's not exactly an universal rule...

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    This. Even the command-line is extremely simple and convenient once you are familiar with it.

    It's so much more complex and frustrating to try and come up with words to explain to someone the steps to do anything on a Windows GUI... browsing through menus clicking this thing here, right-clicking here that, going through tabs, dragging this to there... go to "this" -> "that" -> "whatever"... and then to only realize you misremembered the exact location and have to look it up to make sure.

    Or maybe they changed the location slightly in the last Windows update because "reasons". More than once I've been searching how to do something on Windows 10 and found outdated instructions with setting panels that don't exist anymore.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

    And hammers are also the best tool to deal with a Windows machine!

    [–] okda 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    As a disclaimer, I didn't make this myself, and I lovingly use Linux for all my computing needs.

    But when I selfhost nextcloud to avoid google, or use proton, I am aware that I don't allways choose the easy way.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I am aware that I don’t allways choose the easy way.

    We don't do it because it's easy, we do it because we thought it would be easy.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

    I love simplicity. This is why I use Linux. Its just simpler to get simple Software that does just one thing and that good.

    And I love tinkering with my os.

    [–] Reygle 11 points 2 years ago

    Apparently Windows users just want something that never works, is unsupportable, and required re-installation 3 times a year.

    [–] JerkyIsSuperior 10 points 2 years ago

    I've used Linux as my main desktop OS since 2008, and the only times I had problems were when hardware manufacturers supplied device drivers as binary Windows blobs and I had to kludge up a workaround. In all other instances, it was smooth sailing. If I don't like the desktop look, I can change it, if a file manager bothers me, that too can be changed, if I have older hardware, I can find a lightweight distro and avoid spending money and creating unnecessary e-waste.

    With proprieatry operating systems, you do not own your machine. You paid for it, but you do not own it. Don't like the browser that came with the OS? Fuck you, we're gonna shove it down your throat. Don't want ads in the taskbar? Lmao get rek'd peasant! Want to search files locally without triggering our third-rate search engine? Bing bong, choke on our ding-dong! To be frank, even if Linux was less user friendly (and Windows is downright user hostile) I'd still use it, because I'd rather learn a thing or two about computers than be treated as a shearing sheep.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I upvoted this meme, but to be fair, I often feel like it's more certain Linux developers that don't like (or understand) simplicity and convenience rather than the users. Users that migrate to more simple distros like Mint, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. generally get to have a pretty simple experience.

    I was on Linux Mint with Cinnamon for almost a year at one point because I was tired of Windows giving me problems, and was able to handle it because I wasn't really playing games during that time. Only had to leave because I got sick of trying to get my games to work through WINE because back then, it was actually difficult and not like nowadays with Proton and Steam Deck. I still got World of Warcraft working though, oddly enough.

    [–] jelloeater85 5 points 2 years ago

    Proton is magic. Finally don't need Windows to game on.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

    Meme creator has obviously never used Linux Mint.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

    I mean that's just not true.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

    Lol. I started with Slackware and used it for many years, but I got tired of dealing with dependency hell.

    I switched my desktop and laptops to Kubuntu, but ran Slackware on the server for a few more years. I switched my server to Debian maybe 5 years ago, and I'm glad I did.

    Sorry, Patrick, but I just didn't have the time to handle it any more.

    [–] rkk 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I disagre. But don't want to downvote.

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    [–] jeansibelius 2 points 2 years ago

    This meme was made by not a real Linux user actually.

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