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Lemmy growth curve (self.general)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by phil299 to c/general
 

Seems the growth shows no sign of slowing

data here

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[–] Alpagu 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The total number of active users in the last month would be a much more accurate statistic. The number of users does not give the correct result due to bot accounts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The chart here shows 37,000 active users for Lemmy, and this chart here shows 45,000 active users for Kbin.

And if the recent trend continues then those numbers should grow.

[–] danc4498 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What actually is kbin? Is it just Lemmy with a different user interface? Does it have multiple instances like Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498 13 points 1 year ago

IT'S A SPY! GET EM!!!!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think of it like email, where you can use GMail and I can use Hotmail, but we can talk to each other. I can see your post and respond from my kbin account (like this).

[–] potato_pizzareca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can I see posts from Kbin?

[–] certain_people 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just look at all posts, some will pop up

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The goal of Kbin is to communicate with many other ActivityPup services.

Lemmy: Link aggregator, social network, forum
Kbin: Link aggregator, social network, forum, microblogging
Mastodon: Microblogging

You can use Kbin to interact with Lemmy, Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, and others. That's why I switched today (and loving it, exploring everything right now).

I don't believe that there are multiple instances of Kbin right now. I only know of kbin.social (it is free and open source, though, so anyone can open another instance, I think). Edit: This was wrong. There are many instances. See the answer below.

[–] danc4498 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Switched to kbin? How is it's front page aggregation? Is it closer to reddit than Lemmy?

[–] ulu_mulu 13 points 1 year ago

Have a look, you don't need to register just to see how it is: https://kbin.social/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes it’s much better and sorting seems stable.

[–] phil299 3 points 1 year ago

I had exactly the opposite experience, I joined a kbin and a lemmy instance and opened communities in both, definitely found lemmy easier to jump on too, and lemmy for me was more stable by a large chunk , but that might be the instance I am on seems very well run.

[–] danc4498 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just checked it out. It certainly feels now polished. Do you know what the dev community is like? Do they update and add features frequently?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AFAIK kbin is way early in development and got slammed by a wave of new users after Rexxit happened.

So the dev’s priority right now is server and platform stability, and it’s already way smoother than it was a couple weeks ago. That being said, there are a ton of features planned and development seems to be going pretty quickly at the moment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a tight small shop from what I understand. Their github: https://github.com/ernestwisniewski/kbin

Ernest, from what I've seen, has been very receptive and passionate about all the incoming users. They scaled their infrastructure quickly to meet demand and were interacting with users on kbin regarding features they would like to see. I have high hopes.

[–] danc4498 2 points 1 year ago

I'll check that out too... I like the comment UI better in Lemmy, but everything else seems better in Kbin.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are multiple instances of Kbin, you can see them at the bottom of this page.

The second most popular one at the moment seems to be https://fedia.io/, but yes https://kbin.social/ seems to be the most popular.

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[–] phil299 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually lemmy has over half a million total users and Kbin stands at about 50,000 the 37,000 number is just the lemmy.world users

[–] phil299 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here is the active users last month curve

It is not just active users , we have gone from under 100 nodes (instances) to over 300 in June alone , I really love the distributed network idea, I could see large sub from reddit running there own instance where they really have control of the destiny of there community.

[–] guyman 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy is where it's at. I'm noticing an insane jump in quality. It feels like everyone on reddit wants to be a comedian or repeat the same thing 1000 times just to show they fit in.

[–] ptah 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've checked Reddit a few times the past few days and I've started to notice how many comments are the same inside jokes over and over again. The hive mind really looks different when you're on the outside.

[–] ulu_mulu 5 points 1 year ago

I bet many of those are just reposting bots.

[–] MicroWave 2 points 1 year ago

It's so nice not seeing the same jokes over and over again here.

[–] ulu_mulu 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Expect a crazy peak around July 1st, that's when reddit apps will shutdown, after that things should settle I think.

[–] Tsunami45chan 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah and it's only nine (ten) days left.

[–] wheresyourshoe 6 points 1 year ago

I imagine there will still be a higher than normal amount of growth, but not as steep, through the rest of the summer as other people give up on Reddit after the changes. Some casual users may not understand what's going on, but they'll notice the changes through July and August without all the 3rd party people and the mods who leave/have left/got removed, which may drive them to alternatives.

[–] danc4498 5 points 1 year ago

I hope the new version of Lemmy is released before then so the home page gets fixed.

[–] pleasemakesense 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately these are most bots, which you can see from the active user ratio

[–] danc4498 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does "active" mean? Are lurkers considered active? Or do you have to vote/comment/post to be considered active?

[–] ptah 2 points 1 year ago

Looking through the code on GitHub it looks like active is the number of new posts plus the number of new comments in a certain time period (in this case 6 months).

Caveat: I'm just a hobbyist so my reading of the code may not be exactly correct.

create or replace function site_aggregates_activity(i text)
returns int
language plpgsql
as
$$
declare
   count_ integer;
begin
  select count(*) 
  into count_
  from (
    select c.creator_id from comment c
    inner join user_ u on c.creator_id = u.id
    where c.published > ('now'::timestamp - i::interval) 
    and u.local = true
    union
    select p.creator_id from post p
    inner join user_ u on p.creator_id = u.id
    where p.published > ('now'::timestamp - i::interval)
    and u.local = true
  ) a;
  return count_;
end;
$$;

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_day = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('1 day'));

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_week = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('1 week'));

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_month = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('1 month'));

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_half_year = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('6 months'));

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[–] TeaHands 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I understand a large part of it is an influx of spam bots on unsecured instances so don't get too excited quite yet.

[–] MicroWave 4 points 1 year ago

But we can get excited that lemmy.world is the largest non-bot instance with 37k users.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's just like 14 people not understanding the software and creating accounts on every instance

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel personally attacked.

[–] anakaine 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's fucking funny lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really multiple accounts on lemmy but one one lemmy.world and another on kbin. Then came across lemm.ee which had some sorting bug fixed and liked the name so… yeah 2 lemmy accounts and one kbin.

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[–] phil299 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] Glunkbor 7 points 1 year ago

Very good news for us! And by the way Reddit keeps fucking up over and over again the growth won't slow anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Joecool2087 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love spam! Spam and eggs, spam sushi, spam and Reese's....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] phil299 3 points 1 year ago

Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam ....spaaaammm glorious spam

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good to see for Lemmy. Let's keep it up.

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