Fuck John Wayne.
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Why?
He's a racist and sexist piece of shit. His legacy is still being used to push the "good 'ol boys" mentality and toxic Christian evengalicalism.
Sexy boi
Try finding a Mongolian dude in 1950s America
1956 was racist as hell though.
Racism was pervasive in 1956. Still is, but it used be to too.
RIP Mitch
Hollywood did not hire people who weren't white, unless they were black and used for a black role, and not always even then, for a very long time. Even today there are representation problems in Hollywood and in other media in general. In other words, America is racist, nice of you to notice.
As somebody who immigrated to the US, I came to conclusion that a lot of the world is far more racist. US is just openly fighting that so it is much more visible.
The US is probably the least racist country or at least a top contender.
People don’t get that there’s going to be problems since we have sizable populations of people from pretty much every country
The US openly fights racism like you said
We’re very vocal about when the US f’d up in the past
Our news is broadcast and talked about everywhere since many parts of the internet have a US bias
And the US cares about trying to have a semblance of equality
I agree! While its going to be an unpopular opinion:
I've lived on all continents save two and I believe the USA is the least racist country in the world by a massive margin, now this dosent mean that systematic racism is not a problem in the US, I'd argue its a bigger problem here than in other parts of the world. Other parts of the world thst are, weirdly enough. More racist!?
If you stop to consider the amount of hate being spewed in America on a daily basis toward people of various skin colors, weather directly so online or more covertly using coded language on news, The US would definitely appear very racist.
But I've lived here in various states, all over the US save the west coast, for almost a decade now, and Americans are by far the least racist people around thst I've encountered that number more than a couple million.
I belive the average American is very prejudiced however, especially against other Americans who happen to be black. Especially if they also sound or dress black.
Really anyone who sounds or dresses in a non-white way.
What I got from your post is ‘the least racist American is very prejudiced against none white people”
So American still America, America still racist
Why I don't find your response very discussionable. This post isent supposed to be here. That was supposed to be a reply to a completely different thread/parent comment somewhere else!?
We have a state advocating for the positives of slavery. America is atill incredibly racist, it's just a lot more open than in Europe since we have a way more diverse population than them.
'Murica and racism, name a more iconic duo
At least this movie killed him
John Wayne himself attributed his cancer yo his 5 pack a day smoking habit.
Out of a cast and crew of 220, 91came down with cancer, and 46 died
I love that Paul Mooney bit on Chappelle’s Show where he laughs about Tom Cruise playing the leading role in a movie called The Last Samurai. He says “Here’s a movie I want to see: ‘The Last N——r on Earth.’ Starring Tom Hanks!”
Ever seen Breakfast at Tiffany's?
I'm sure I'll never understand that movie or why so many college friends (early 2000's) loved it.
That's ok, though. Aside from this, I doubt I'll think of it for another decade.
Wow, jeez, never seen this before. Terrible.
I'll be invading China now.... Pilgrum.
"The bomb that killed John Wayne"
Or Alec Guiness playing Prince Fasial in Lawrence of Arabia
NGL he kinda looks like the actual dude
Close enough.
I don't think it really matters if he looks like the actual dude. It's rude as hell to pick a generic/famous white guy to portray a non-white historical figure. Some stills of him look really similar for sure but actually watching Lawrence of Arabia he just looks like someone rubbed dirt or bronze on his face and called it good enough
Many "white people" definitely could pass as Arabs so I don't know what you're talking about.
Like, the only perceived difference between "white and non-white" is literally a few kilometres of water
Sorry to confuse you. White and non-white was a blanket term because this post is also about John Wayne portraying Genghis Khan. If you really don't understand why an English actor portraying an Arab prince or an American Actor portraying a Mongol can be problematic then this all must be very confusing for you...
I do understand that it's hard to find a white American that looks like a Mongolian, but it's definitely not hard to find "arab-passing" whites
The likeness isn't the point or even what I'm trying to explain. In fact, I agree that they share a basic likeness. Again... If you really don't understand how an English actor portraying an Arab prince or an American Actor portraying a Mongolian can be problematic then you've missed the point, again. The point is that Hollywood in the 50s/60s hire famous actors, that really have no connection to the aforementioned historical figures, over actors that do. I'm sure there were many incredibly talented actors that are actually from east Asia that would've been a better fit to play Genghis Khan. Same for finding an actor from the Arabian Peninsula. These people were robbed of the chance to share their heritage over an actor with a bigger name and pull.
Again, it's a fucking movie, not a life or death situation for "non-white" people. If an actor kinda looks like a certain historical character and does a good job at portraying it it's OK. Again, the white American portraying a Mongolian part definitely doesn't follow at least one of these conditions.
Next up "Florida man defends holywood using black-face to the death" citing " just as long as the actor did a good job" yehaaaw
Go it. So Black-face sounds absurd to you but Brown-face or Yellow-face doesn't.
Dude stop fighting that strawman. I just said that people may look like historical characters that aren't of their ethnicity, and it's fine to have them as them in a movie. Like, Rami Malek is of Egyptian ancestry and he portrayed Freddie Mercury, who was a Parsi (descendant of Zoroastrians in India), but he did a good job and was well characterized in Bohemian Rhapsody
How about Iron Eyes Cody playing the famous crying Indian commercial though he's Italian and spent most of his career running actual indigenous peoples out of Hollywood.