Luis Rubiales is an overall disgusting person
this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2023
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Kissing is not disgusting. Using your position to kiss someone without their consent is disgusting.
was it out of her consent ? she always could plead to the soccer federation right ?
Her first reaction was to say that she didn't like it. Of course, she could complain to the federation about the federation president.
oh, i though he was just the team manager, yikes!
Definitely gross and unexcusable behavior. But, it's funny how the BBC final coverage of the world cup is about the Spain's controversies and how great the England team is. Nobody likes a sore loser. Lol
Que viva España y sus campeonas! 🇪🇸
I didn’t like it
And then…
In comments later released by the Spanish football federation Hermoso - Spain's all-time leading scorer - said the moment was a "natural gesture of affection". "It was a totally spontaneous mutual gesture because of the immense joy that winning a World Cup brings," the 31-year-old forward added.
Or she's being pressured to say it's okay to kill the controversy.
Or this also might be hard to believe but she could actually be fully grown and capable of having her own agency
Yeah, might. It's good good to question it even if that's the case. Maybe next time someone will think twice about doing something similar if it's not consensual.
You realize adults can be pressured to say and do things they don't want to do...right?
Very tough, there's an obvious power dynamic.
I get the sentiment but fuck.. every time I see this type of comment it makes it seem as though women are meek powerless individuals it’s like backhanded feminism
The point is the gender doesn't matter at all. The power dynamic is the core of the problem
Okay fair enough, but stating it like that means that it’s impossible for anyone to fight against that? So once again people have no agency?
Huh? Laws are created all the time to protect against this issue but the topic clearly isn't fully solved
I get it’s still a problem I agree, my point is it shouldn’t always just be assumed this is the case that a person has no ability to fend off anyone with a larger power dynamic
Well that's kind of what the original person said and I gave another option. You don't know. I don't know. But saying they're banging because she changed what she said isnt fair either.
I don't think either of you know how powerful a moment of elation like that can be. I think she gets it because she was there, living it too. Context, as always, is everything.
We're both talking about the fact that she changed her messaging about what happened, not the original action.
Without relation to what Hermoso (or the RFEF PR team) says, it was not appropriate. Even if they are friends, Rubiales is there as La Liga president, not as a friend.
What would have been the public reaction if Infantino would have kissed Hermoso?
What would have been the public reaction if Rubiales would have kissed Queen Letizia?
This guy is a shame to Spanish soccer, I am surprised the backslash is mainly in social media and the mainstream media is just banking with clickbait low level articles. A shame.
It's probably just a curated statement to make him not look like a piece of shit
Just for context, it has been revealed that the alleged statement of "natural gesture of affection, etc" is false and forged.
It was released by the Federation, but she never said that.
She has only said that she did not liked it and won't make any more statements at the moment.
Hermoso was pressured too in the trip back home to appear on the "apology" video from the president (spoiler: he does not really apologize and before that he insulted everybody that did not like the kiss on the radio) but she refused.
The coach tried to persuade the family in the plane too, three times. They did not cave.
Source in Spanish: https://www.relevo.com/futbol/mundial-femenino/rubiales-pidio-jenni-hermoso-defendiera-20230822035508-nt.html
Even if they are, it's an extremely unprofessional move on his part at the very least.
I agree with that. “I was really excited” isn’t a reason to invade anyone’s space.