Cabeza2000

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[–] Cabeza2000 30 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I can't imagine an scenario where BG3 doesn't win the GOTY.

[–] Cabeza2000 2 points 8 months ago

Is that true in real-world terms, though?

Considering how the AI technology works today, yes, I believe it is true. We can feed an AI model 100,000 images of animals and then play with it to see what "new" animals it creates... But that is no innovation for me. The technology may get there, eventually, but it is not at that point now.

Because as is, one can spend only a tiny effort using ChatGPT and generate medium-sized works of fiction that are functionally brand-new. Yes-- I realise that they're still ultimately based on material they've been fed, but the more material they've absorbed, I imagine the less that's necessarily a constraint.

Still. We can get the AI to mix multiple styles to the point that the outcome is disguised, or so loosely related to the original sources that one cannot recognize the parts, but even then, this is not what innovation is.

On top of that, is there anything preventing the prompter from doing the heavy-lifting of 'innovation,' creating the skeleton of the plot, while ChatGPT fleshes it all out?

Agreed. If the AI operator (or handler) adds their own input then the outcome becomes, at least partially, innovation. I have already used AI text tools for my work, and modified the outcome to fit my needs and preferences. It may not be innovation, but it is also not 100% AI as I have added my own input.

That is no the case with this post and the Moebius "AI generated art" examples. Making a claim that text based prompts generating Moebius art is innovation is...well.. an insult to Moebius.

In the other hand, if I was an actual artist, using AI to mix my own art with Moebius art, that is another story. One could call that innovation, with some reserves.

Btw, Cabeza-- thanks for creating this thoughtful thread of scenarios and art. It's nice to have discussions like these, and these issues clearly aren't going away.

I am happy to collaborate with our community!

[–] Cabeza2000 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And it's interesting that it creates art like Moebius but what about the next artist who goes off with their own innovative style?

This is a good point. At the current stage, AI can copy, but can't innovate... I wonder if it will ever reach that point.

[–] Cabeza2000 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

So AI can create pretty pictures but it still struggles to create coherent comics.

Correct, but for how long? Eventually an AI user (artist or not) will be able to create proper storylines.

 

The goal of this post is to discuss whenever "AI art" is good, bad, or irrelevant to graphic novels.

I have been playing around with AI image creation tools since last year. Midjourney first, then Dalle, and most recently Stable Diffusion.

All images in this post I "created" using Moebius based text prompts today. The quotation marks are intended as the only thing I have created are text prompts. Whenever the AI created these images is highly debatable. If I feed an AI model ten thousand panels of Moebius art and the AI returns one panel based on them, then who is the creator?

Feel free to discuss the legality (copyright) of this technology, who should get the royalties or the credit. Or to discuss whenever it is ethical, but what is really interesting to me is to determine if this technology is good, bad or irrelevant for us, graphic novels readers.

I know that a true connoisseur is likely to differentiate within the below images and the true work from Moebius, but for how long? We are at the verge of reaching a point where this differentiation will be impossible. Moebius passed away in 2012, so this differentiation may be possible with external tools, but what about living artists? Furthermore, what if a living artist publishes a book using AI generated art based on his own work. Is that acceptable? Should the artist disclose the AI use to the public? All that will probably come with regulation, or not, who knows.

I prefer human-made art before computer-made art, especially when it comes to graphic novels. This despite knowing that some of the artists that I follow already use CGI to a greater or lesser extent, that is fine... But AI generated art is in another level, something that I do not want to welcome with open arms. Having said that, is the same as with any other technology, like it or not, it is here to stay.

So what is your opinion on this matter?

P.S: I believe I am not breaking any community rule, but if I am then please delete this post.

[–] Cabeza2000 3 points 8 months ago

I also use Automatic 1111 and get my models from Civitai. I just wasn't familiar with the model you are using. I will check it out. Thanks.

[–] Cabeza2000 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is this just the model and the VAE or you use something else to create all these?

If you could share your workflow that would be great. Thanks.

[–] Cabeza2000 2 points 8 months ago

I have eaten in an Ethiopian restaurant once and didn't enjoy it.

Their food is way too spicy and the Injera too sour.

Of course this is just my taste... Others may love it, specially if spicy food is their thing.

[–] Cabeza2000 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks for the post.

I didn't notice when I checked the series that some of the books are companion books. I will look into this again.

[–] Cabeza2000 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was aware it is the authors third book and not the first but choose this one as the previous ones weren't available in the online store I was buying, it had good reviews and my understanding is that most of these series are stand-alone volumes with almost no connections with the previous ones.

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This is my first time reading a book on the "The Obscure Cities" series and I loved it. The art and the story were unique and intriguing.

The authors worked on the book in the mid-eighties and contacted Orson Welles to base the main character likeness on him! This is probably one of the last Welles collaborations in any medium before he passed away in 1985.

But this is just anecdotal, the main appeal of the book is the art, heavily inspired by Giovanni Battista Piranesi, a famous Venetian architect from the 18th century who was known by his “Imaginary Prisons" etchings.

I am happy that I discovered these series and I am looking forward to keep reading them.

[–] Cabeza2000 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If I helps I think you are doing great things for this community. I may not always comment or make posts of my own but from time to time I always check the community and go over all the new posts I have not read.

[–] Cabeza2000 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What community?

Stop having match threads and then you can rest assured no soccer community will ever form around here.

My comment was not about the bot but about the human (@[email protected]) that post the match threads for everyone's benefit.

I am not sure what you call main r/soccer page or separate r/soccer. Perhaps something to do with how you browse reddit. I used to browse reddit with an app (RIF) and old.reddit.com and there was no such separation. Furthermore, they not only have match threads but also post-match threads, goal threads and sometimes threads for red cards, tackles, VAR... and so on.

Obviously we don't need all that around here but we need at least one post per match thread... That is the bare minimum to have, and that is why I remain strongly opposed to OP.

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Generalmente no juego juegos gratuitos pero este clon de Vampire Survivors tiene muy buena crítica y la verdad que esta muy bien hecho. Muy recomendado si les gustan los juegos tipo VS.

EDIT: Importante aclarar que no tiene elementos pay-to-win, micro transacciones, ni nada por el estilo.

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I just finished "Pinocchio" by Winshluss and it was very different than the BD that I am used to.

I liked the art (resembling of Robert Crumb) and the Pinocchio adaptation for mature audiences. There is a lot to like in the clever storytelling and how the stories connect with each other.

Perhaps this was not my cup of tea, but it was refreshing and definitely something very unique that I am happy to add to my collection.

EDIT: This Pinocchio adaptation is not appropriate for children or young comic readers. Just in case it wasn't clear from my post.

 

Algo no está sincronizando bien con lemmy.world , algún problema con la federacion quizás. Así que posteo desde lemmy.world a ver que sucede.

 

Looking forward to start immersing myself on this one.

The PDF is free if anyone is interested: https://crpgbook.files.wordpress.com/2023/03/crpg-book-expanded-edition_3.6b.pdf

 

My unread pile has now reached 30 graphic novels (roughly half are European, the rest are mostly American but not only).

I have been in a shopping spree during August but now it is time to stop as this pile should last me for a while. I hope. :)

 

In my attempt to generate activity in this community, I am sharing the latest additions to my collection.

The first Criminal Deluxe volume is arriving next week. I was just impatient to post. :)

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