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Luis Rubiales is criticised by a Spanish government minister for kissing forward Jenni Hermoso on the lips after Spain's Women's World Cup victory.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Or she's being pressured to say it's okay to kill the controversy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That’s probable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Or this also might be hard to believe but she could actually be fully grown and capable of having her own agency

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, might. It's good good to question it even if that's the case. Maybe next time someone will think twice about doing something similar if it's not consensual.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You realize adults can be pressured to say and do things they don't want to do...right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very tough, there's an obvious power dynamic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the sentiment but fuck.. every time I see this type of comment it makes it seem as though women are meek powerless individuals it’s like backhanded feminism

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is the gender doesn't matter at all. The power dynamic is the core of the problem

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay fair enough, but stating it like that means that it’s impossible for anyone to fight against that? So once again people have no agency?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh? Laws are created all the time to protect against this issue but the topic clearly isn't fully solved

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I get it’s still a problem I agree, my point is it shouldn’t always just be assumed this is the case that a person has no ability to fend off anyone with a larger power dynamic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well that's kind of what the original person said and I gave another option. You don't know. I don't know. But saying they're banging because she changed what she said isnt fair either.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think either of you know how powerful a moment of elation like that can be. I think she gets it because she was there, living it too. Context, as always, is everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We're both talking about the fact that she changed her messaging about what happened, not the original action.