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[–] MossBear 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wish this had a pen. I'm waiting for a Linux tablet that can be used with Krita.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Same, it would be an instant sale from me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'd buy it in a second if it had a pen. Like the wacom/spen on the Samsung tablets

[–] ricdeh 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well there's always the option to buy something like a Samsung Galaxy Book3 360. It's a laptop that comes with an AMOLED touchscreen, a 360° hinge and the S-Pen. You can put a GNU/Linux distribution on it and enjoy free/libre and open-source software with a tablet-like user experience while keeping your integrated keyboard and touchpad (it's the best of both worlds!), and the S-Pen is amazing and works on Linux because it uses standardised Wacom protocols. They're not inexpensive though.

[–] MossBear 1 points 1 year ago

That's not a bad idea. Thanks for the recomendation! I had forgotten that s-pens use wacom tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not exactly the same, but current and last gen Samsung tablets can run Krita. I've never used it on desktop though so I don't know if the Android version is worse in some way but I've had a great time with it on my Tab S8 Ultra

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you want a tablet with an Intel processor? Especially with Linux, which unlike Windows, runs perfectly fine on ARM.

[–] WhoRoger 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does everything run on ARM? Steam, Wine, stuff like that? Are the power optimisations as good on Linux/ARM as on x86? Not saying they aren't, but I imagine on a laptop replacement thingy x86 makes sense due to this kind of support.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are the power optimisations as good on Linux/ARM as on x86?

ARM chips use less power, that's kind of the whole point.

[–] WhoRoger 7 points 1 year ago

The processors do, that doesn't mean the desktop Linux distributions are well optimised for it. The available Linux phones have garbage battery life and a bunch of other issues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't necessarily as true as it once was. X86 has made a lot of ground in power efficiency and ARM has made a lot of ground in performance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Intel chips are still quite hot and use older process nodes which are less efficient. They have been pushing performance over efficiency recently as well. If this was AMD hardware on N5 I would agree with you, but sadly it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's true in general, but Intel Atom is quite promising IIRC, and efficiency cores + improvements to their fabs should only continue to improve the situation.

I'm not saying the old logic of "ARM is efficient, x86 is fast" isn't still true, but it's becoming less true, and they're kind of converging to be similar chips but with different starting points (i.e., the needs are becoming more similar, and the differences are becoming lesser).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying the old logic of "ARM is efficient, x86 is fast" isn't still true

Okay then I will say it. Apple Silicon is almost as fast per core than Intel and AMD. I am not talking just about x86 vs ARM in general because that's a fools errand. I am talking about Intel. That's also not an Atom chip, they don't make Atom anymore. Sure it is made of E cores but those are several generations removed from the Atom chips. It would actually make more sense imo if they used the 8 core version of that chip.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not really the use case for a tablet. It'd be nice to run Android apps, but I think that’s possible on Linux on ARM.

[–] WhoRoger 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As long as something is running a desktop OS, anything is a use case for it. Maybe that's exactly the point why it's x86. It has a 12" inch sceeen after all, so it's not like it's just a mini 8" tablet you take to bed to watch vids before sleeping.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another fine kbin thumbnail image caching bug. Prepare for our entire instance to comment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm ready to draw my pen out. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] WhoRoger 6 points 1 year ago

I want one! Well, I'd rather have one with a 10" display, but this looks good too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Someone knows something like this with (possibly color) E-Ink?

Or maybe an E-Reader where you can go out of the reader application and install Android/Linux apps (e.g. you can "hack" them without much trouble)?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nowhere near as powerful, but you might find this interesting https://beepy.sqfmi.com/? It has a similar display to e-ink

It's a bit of a DIY thing but cool if you're into that, especially if you already have a pi zero.

Check out this article: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/messing-beepy-formerly-known-beepberry

[–] sagrotan 2 points 1 year ago

Paid 200 for an old surface, it literally races with arch. No problems whatsoever. But libreboot would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll wait for the arm architecture equivalent.