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[–] [email protected] 87 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“Wins”, really? That’s a disgusting way of putting it. He’s compensated for time spent in prison, but the time will be forever lost.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention that, while objectively a lot of money to most people, $4m is a piss-poor compensation for 18 years of your life!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

That is 26$/h spent in prison. Take that for what you will, but it's hard for me to define how to compensate someone fairly for wrongful imprisonment. Money comes, money goes, but time only passes. It won't come back.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, $26/h is a good rate for work wages, but not for losing a major chunk of your life and the resulting trauma from it. Contrary to some "tough guy" portrayals in fiction, your psyche and relationship with society WILL be forever fractured from being caged for so long , no matter how you were before.

I wouldn't wish that on GUILTY prisoners, let alone someone who was wrongfully convicted like in this case.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it really is hard to quantify. Even just taking into account the financial aspect if he was working during that time he would have been developing skills and becoming worth more to employ as well. He's effectively 18 years behind career and skills wise where he could have been.

EDIT: shit, it's even worse than that.

"Alan was 24 when he was arrested. He is now 61."

It also said he had an intellectual disability. I don't know how severe it is but being a convicted murderer for most of your life would Rob you of so many opportunities. Fucking hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I was confused at first because 61 - 24 isn't 18, but then realized he did have a length of time out on parole before he was sent back for violating parole.

[–] HonoraryMancunian 4 points 10 months ago

It works out about $15 US or £12 or €14 p.h.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

It's not even 2.4 million USD. That's not nearly enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Courts have a really hard time admitting to any wrongdoing. When someone innocent gets released, they see it as a loss, because they don't care about justice. They decided this man was guilty for whatever reason, and a win for them would have been to keep him imprisoned. His innocence is irrelevant to their decision.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So that's about 2.95M USD or 2.7M EUR, I wouldn't go to prison for 18 years for that amount of money that's for sure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Went to prison at 24 and got his 4m nzd payout at 61. Fuuuck that what a failure of the justice system.

Not only was he wrongfully convicted, but the true killer apparently went free?

[–] madcaesar 5 points 10 months ago

It should be 1mil per year, minimum.

[–] Jmr 15 points 10 months ago

10 times that at least. That's pennies compared to the amnount he lost

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On one hand, it's not nearly enough. Nobody would voluntarily give away that much of their life for that much money, which is the standard they should use. OTOH, I'm surprised he got anything at all, because I've never heard of a government that would voluntarily admit any kind of liability for wrongful convictions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

People are giving away that much of their life for much less money all the time. That's literally what working is.

[–] Why9 5 points 10 months ago

Prison isn't like work. Sure there's a lot to not like about work but comparing it to prison is a step too far

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Do you spend 24 hours a day at work?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I just did the math and if I spent the next 18 years at my current job with my current salary I'd earn about 500.000 moneys. Well, shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he was imprisoned with 24 and is now 61 he either was 37 years in prison or fought 19 years for compensation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Mr Hall was released on parole in 1994 only to be sent back to jail in 2012

[–] itscozydownhere 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah too little

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

He can hardly buy a house with that