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I've seen our future (lemmy.sdf.org)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is the issue.

How are new users meant to know what instances federate with which other instances and which are blocked? E.g. that Beehaw defederated with the Lemmy.world instances?

What (most) users want is to be able to see a sane set of defaults and from there make their own choices about what they do and don’t want to see. But by the time they’ve made an account. Subbed to a few communities etc there is a wall to leaving for another instance if you don’t like the way something is being run given there is no easy way to migrate your profile to another instance that may suit you better.

Now don’t get me wrong, online harassment sucks to put it lightly. Nobody should have to put up with it and it’s entirely (to reuse my previous example) beehaw’s right to block harassment causing instances, but that doesn’t make it any easier for new people trying to get into the lemmy ecosystem.

[–] OtakuAltair 9 points 1 year ago

Honestly, just point people to lemmy.world and lemm.ee and call it a day

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it'll really matter in most cases once there's enough people/content. Most people didn't care about forums outside of Reddit's sphere of influence either.

Most people will probably just make a new community on their instance of choice if an instance is blocked and they don't want to make a new account.

I may be wrong but I think I did hear that mastodon has profile transfer, and that is something that other fediverses should be able to do, just there's a lot going on at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That does not include posts because of the network-wide difficulties in syncing.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer 2 points 1 year ago

It's probably good enough to just tell them to go to this site and pick randomly https://join-lemmy.org/instances

[–] DharkStare 1 points 1 year ago

How are new users meant to know what instances federate with which other instances and which are blocked?

That's one of the reasons it's taken me so long to actually sign up with Lemmy. The fediverse is a bit more complicated than the usual website.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Our future? You mean our present

Beehaw is bad. I will die on that hill

Burggit.moe should be illegal

lemmygrad is just circlejerking

[–] Adubya 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shout it to all of the fediverse, this user speaks the truth!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is beehaw bad? Not trying to confront just curious

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of the people who have been around on Lemmy before the influx are socialists. Some of them are obnoxious, but many Beehaw users went over to that instance rather than confronting viewpoints they disagree with, and also defederating with a good handful of instances (not sure if that was restored).

Some feel that it has given the instance a very "Reddity" sort of tone, but that's true across pretty much all of the instances to varying extents.

When people think of the "devs are 'tankies'" discussion that's been ongoing (who cares about their politics, cause the Reddit admins have far worse politics without catching so much heat?), Beehaw is the first instance that comes to mind, I think.

[–] JesusTheCarpenter 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on, so what is wrong with Burggit.moe?

[–] Iron_Lynx 3 points 1 year ago

I gave it one look. The home page specified that it was, and I copypaste:

(NSFW & Loli/Shota/Cub friendly!)

Now, I personally have no problem with NSFW in general, but the rest tells me that kiddie diddlers are welcome there, which is a huge red flag imo.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After all the drama revealed on Mastodon by this weekend's shitstorms this feels so damn real now...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Context?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meta made a secret meeting with signed NDAs with the admins of multiple Matodon instances in preparation for their upcoming Twitter alternative. This of course wasn't taken lightly by people and has caused divisions. This is what i think the best summary of some of the inter-instance drama that happened, maybe the best summary of events in general ever made on the history of the Fediverse

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

God I hate that "Oh I'm so adhd" writing style. But thanks for the detail.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as Im curious to what drama unfolded, I had to stop reading that text

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good god, same.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 2 points 1 year ago

You guys did not oversell. Oof.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What are you talking about?

EDIT: Ah... Just clicked the link. Yeah that's terrible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It feels very 2010s Tumblr.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's style can be fun, but writing a whole epic in it?

[–] marcos 11 points 1 year ago

Seems like all of the federated applications could use a way to export your social data and import on another instance.

[–] faltuuser 10 points 1 year ago

In case you haven't noticed, it is already our present.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i can see the futuuuure! oh no, they can see me!

[–] Adubya 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way!