this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
276 points (91.6% liked)

Technology

59674 readers
4515 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The world's largest chipmaker promised to create thousands of US jobs. There are growing tensions over whether US workers have the skills or work ethic to do them.::Jobs at the TSMC semiconductor factory in Arizona could require long hours and total obedience. Americans may push back on the company's culture.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] TwoGems 5 points 1 year ago

Oh ok so we aren't being slaves enough is what they're saying

[–] JustZ 3 points 1 year ago

Outrage bait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You guys do know the affordability of the chips you're using to comment on this is a direct consequence of TSMC "efficiency", right?

[–] Spudwart 5 points 1 year ago

TSMC doesn’t make everything.

There are morally abhorrent chip manufacturers in South Korea and Japan as well.

[–] average650 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The manufacturing cost of the SoC in my phone is not at all at the top of the bill of materials. You could double the price of the SoC (or reduce TSMC manufacturing efficiency in half) and the price would go up by $50-80 at most. And I'm talking about top of the line SoCs like the Apple Bionic and Snapdragon 8 series. There won't be a significant market disruption if this happened. There's already an estimate of the increased cost of production in the US and it lies around 50% over the Taiwanese cost, so it's not even close to the above. That's $25-40 per top of the line phone extra.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The comment in this thread are a good summary of why TSMC has concerns. I fully support workers rights of course. But from TSMC's perspective, WHY would they want to put up with all our 'crap' when they can continue operating in Taiwan with their standard practices?

[–] franklin 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair point however I would rather have chip dependance than exploitation

[–] average650 -1 points 1 year ago

Because we have them money to do it.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›