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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Alcohol is a massive tax revenue in pretty much everywhere in the world, but especially here in Canada. It's pretty obvious when you see the difference in price of a beer here compared to the states, as 90% of that difference is purely taxes. Hell, you can tell the difference between the beer/wine costs in Ontario vs in Quebec. There's a reason why people in Ottawa and Gatineau constantly cross the boarder to buy their poison of choice.

That said, there's also the fact that when the States tried to ban it, they basically created some of the richest criminals in the world in like a single year. Alcohol is so ingrained into modern society that people riot over it.

Tobacco is a comfort luxury that pretty much anybody can get off of with some effort. Alcohol is a crutch that far too many people use to avoid going to some pretty dark places.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Not really equivalent. Smoking permanently leaves all kind of nasty shit in your lungs and causes cancer. Also very addictive, making moderation physically difficult (alcohol can also be addictive but not to the same extremes). Alcohol in moderation isn't really an issue. Pushing it more can give your liver a bad time, but as long as you give it a break before the point of disease it can bounce right back.

There is a societal problem especially in the UK in that it's seen as a sort of matter of pride to throw moderation out of the window and get as wasted as possible, but I have my doubts that graphic health warnings will do much about that. Either way it's more an effect of society ignoring and sometimes even shaming moderation (how many times have you been shamed for going home before you fall over on a work's night out) than the alcohol itself.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because the alcohol industry is still profitable enough for special treatment.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No one recreationally smokes the same way that people might drink every once in a while.

You also have a lot of money spent by various alcohol manufacturers to keep alcohol from being treated like tobacco. If anything, drinking went up a lot with millennials.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Don't forget sugar too!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The answer is in the article: โ€œ I donโ€™t want to say that there are necessarily equivalent health risks,โ€

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because those health warnings are meaningless to begin with. We know it's bad for us, we don't need a nanny state to hold our hands at the same time.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

We know it's bad for us

You have the knowledge in the back of your mind. The warnings make you have it in active thought.

we don't need a nanny state

Do you truly believe consumers usually/always make rational and reasonable decisions, that don't go against their own interests?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@NightOwl a it's so normalized in our society that people are afraid to acknowledge the dangers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always thought the hypocrisy between alcohol and cannabis packaging is ridiculous. If cigarettes and cannabis need to be heavily restricted in terms of having simple, plain packaging with health warnings, anything for sale that can cause health issues should be subject to the same restrictions.

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