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All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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[–] 666dollarfootlong 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Looking forward to seeing If companies will just do the bare minimum to pass or if we'll see some actual innovation. It would be cool to be able to buy spare batteries, that are quick to replace and easy to carry around along with a charging station or something so you can always have a full battery with you.

I bet The Apple battery, just a replacement or a dedicated module like I said above, will be starting at like $249

[–] smackjack 18 points 1 year ago

Apple will figure out a way to DRM batteries so that no one but them can sell them and they'll cost as much as a new phone.

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[–] ineedaunion 18 points 1 year ago

EU citizenship is a dream.

[–] Moc 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So tempted to wait until 2027 to buy my next iPhone

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[–] KrisND 17 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Not a bad idea but there are flaws and this also doesn't seem to address the issue of pricing or availability.

  • So you can remove the battery, will you be able to buy one.
  • They could prevent 3rd parties from making batteries that work.
  • They could just not sell battery replacements.
  • They could add more parts needed, like seals, screws that strip too easily, that annoying sticky tape etc.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We already have regulations about spare parts availability and pricing for some devices (mainly household appliances) - and it is planned to slowly enforce regulation for other device types over time. They'll watch the market, and if apple decides to be stupid that'll come pretty quickly.

Just like with the appliances where some vendors had their shops ready way before regulation we already have some phone vendors prepare for that - like Nokia selling some spares via ifixit. So if apple decides to play stupid games it'll be up against vendors that'll be completely fine pushing regulation through quickly as hurting apple will only benefit them.

[–] chiliedogg 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had a washing machine where the price of the replacement motherboard (ludicrous this is this even a thing, btw) was triple the price of the entire washing machine.

Making parts available doesn't make it realistic to repair stuff.

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[–] JGrffn 9 points 1 year ago

The neat thing about EU regulations is that they are iterated over constantly, so even if they don't get it 100% right the first time, they're able to nail things down in subsequent iterations. Look at how quickly they struck down any fantasies Apple had of still fucking people over with their own type c implementation fuckery. The direction the EU is taking is already doing plenty good for the entire world.

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[–] Squander 17 points 1 year ago

EU is killing it right now. Charging port regulation and now removable batteries in everything. If companies are forced to produce different models for the EU maybe just maybe it will be cost effective to just make all their phones with removable batteries. One can hope, cause you know the US wont pass that type of consumer protection regulation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

When Apple want to, they can design amazing things. So I look forward to see if they come up with a clever Apple-like way to do this. Or maybe they just make it easier to remove the back.

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[–] joel_feila 11 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Now will companies also offer this in the usa or will they have 2 models for sale

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I see something like this every few years.EU has to make a fine so heavy that it's impossible to just pay as a tax of doing business.

Unless that's all it really is.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

God bless the European union, doing the kind of consumer protection that America won't.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I remember when apple put out a software update to intentionally throttle the phone's processor, to save charge on it's irreplacable battery. I hope this prevents companies doing this sort of shit as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried Ctrl+F searching to see whether anyone here had pasted the link to the law, and didn't find anything, so I went to Presearch and found this, which appears to be the official European Union log for it, and has attached PDFs at the end with what seem to be the nitty-gritty for further reading...

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/07/10/council-adopts-new-regulation-on-batteries-and-waste-batteries/

If I've found an errant page that just looks official, please link something better for those looking for the legalese

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[–] 5BC2E7 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think apple will comply by including a dongle battery that can be replaced but no one will actually carry with their phone

[–] whereisk 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The law says, "Designing portable batteries in appliances in such a way that consumers can themselves easily remove and replace them;"

Key part being "in appliances".

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