I guess if you don't know what a rootkit is it could seem like one.
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
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This is the calmest, most insulting thing you could have possibly said.
Thanks, often that's what I'm going for.
Yeah. This meme makes no sense..
Let's avoid misinforming people please. The reality is bad enough, no need to start lying and deceiving
But the meme has the right intention. Google WILL deploy a rootkit to make it make sense
While WEI definitely doesn’t qualify as a rootkit itself, any useful attester is going to require aspects of one - whether it’s a phone asserting that it hasn’t been rooted, or a PC running with approved SecureBoot and TPM keys.
That's still not a rootkit. What do people think rootkits are?
Sure it is. A rootkit is a mechanism for hooking access to highly privileged execution levels of a device, masking its own presence, and persisting itself against removal. TPM + SecureBoot runs in firmware, more privileged than kernel mode. It analyzes the bootloader and other key boot parameters to verify they have not been tampered with. They can’t be disabled from within the OS. And sometimes they can’t be removed or disabled at all without someone finding a vulnerability, as in the case with phone rooting.
Great, but using the TPM as intended is not a rootkit or anything like a rootkit. It's using a security device as intended.
Although often associated with it, a rootkit does not inherently need to be malware. In the case of phones, and likely future PCs, they are used to prevent users and owners from modifying their device.
There’s no way to say this one way or the other until it’s implemented.
However to “verify” a system from a hardware level to any decent level of accuracy would require kernel level access.
Technically you’re correct, until you’re not.
That's still not what a rootkit is. Lol
Spudward is on a fucking crusade
A righteous one though
Wow, you weren’t kidding.
I don't think it'll go that far. What I'm more worried about is that the spec calls for multiple attesters. So Microsoft and others might even make their own under the spec.
Every platform that has a vested interest (e.g. is, or is a large contractor of advertising companies) will likely want in on this.
If the choices are in or out, any company beholden to investors or shareholders won't really have a lot of options it seems.
They are trying to cut off internet access so only paying customers can stay
Color me surprised that it's Google that created and pushed for support of this shit.
It doesn't matter if it goes short or far. This shit is DRM, and if any part of it makes it into browsers, it's the end of the web as we know it.