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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/628792

From the article:

"Beehaw is relatively new and relatively small at the moment, but it's one of the closest approximations of what Reddit is that you're going to find, and well worth investigating as a Reddit replacement. The interface even looks a lot like Reddit, albeit without a lot of the on-screen features and furniture that build up over almost two decades of operation.

Have a read of the Beehaw mission statement and you'll see the platform is committed to avoiding the "hate speech" and "disinformation" that's prevalent elsewhere. The communities available right now cover everything from neurodivergence and people of color to literature and gardening, so you're sure to find something of interest here."

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Feels like this Beehaw section of the article is missing the mark in it's failure to recognize Lemmy or the Fediverse as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s what I thought too 🤷‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@emi @sudo The seven great alternatives to Reddit should have been (in no particular order):

  1. Beehaw
  2. KBin
  3. Lemmy
  4. FediBB
  5. Mastodon
  6. Calckey
  7. Hubzilla
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I don't think I'd call microblogging a Reddit alternative, they're wildly different formats even if they're somewhat interoperable here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

It's actually pretty amazing how little understanding tech writers seem to know about tech. They're just PR mouthpieces for gadget companies.

[–] Fredol 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, this is far from positive. Especially since Beehive has excluded everyone from its garden; It's not federated anymore.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's annoying that they chose to shout out the instance that is not completely open to new users and has de-federated from other popular instances

[–] ghariksforge 2 points 2 years ago

Why did Beehaw defederate?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is good news, I'm just sad they defederated with so many instances.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They do want to refederate when we get some better moderation tools. It would be cool if we had a list of the tools they need the most in order to refederate as I’m sure some in the community would be more motivated to make those tools if they new the priorities.

[–] kabe 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here you go.: https://discuss.online/post/12787

It's quite extensive as Lemmy's mod tools are reeaally basic compared to Reddit's.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

It certainly comes at an unfortunate time, but I can't fault them for wanting to build a community around their own ideology. They were left with few other options since the existing moderation tools won't yet facilitate the enforcement of such rules. It will come eventually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I mean, when some of those sites they defederated from are going around proudly announcing they'd rather ban people asking that they defederate from the Nazi instance than the Nazi instance itself, it really drives home how much it was the right decision. We absolutely, under no circumstances, should let this space become just another Nazi bar.

[–] Jessica 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just checked, and Beehaw has defederated with 388 instances. Either the fediverse is overrun with nazis, or you're making a massive generalization and Beehaw is being ridiculous.

[–] CocktailPlasma 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm confused on how this works... I'm on lemmy.world, and they list that as a blocked instance on that page... But I can still access beehaw communities no problem from here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The way federation works is by federated instances making copies of those communities, and syncing them when there are any changes, like when somebody posts a comment.

Defederation disables sync, but the ghost copies still exist on l.w. You can still comment and everything, it just wouln't be synced to the main community on beehaw -- they won't see your comments, and you won't see comments posted there that are made after defederation happened.

[–] Jessica 1 points 2 years ago

I was actually under the impression we would no longer receive updated content from beehaw, but that doesn't seem to be the case... At any rate, if you go to https://lemmy.one/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/TopDay/page/1, you'll see a post on their Technology community about Jellyfin. If you do the same here https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/TopDay/page/1, it's nowhere to be found. It does look like you can still view the current content being posted on Beehaw when directly visiting those communities, but I'd be willing to bet if you try to comment, it will be like being shadow banned and only other lemmy.world users will see them. I did a quick check through on one of their most commented posts in the last 24 hours, and I don't see a single reply from anyone on lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

388 instances is not a number that indicates “overrun.” Anyone can make an instance.

[–] zik 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You do know that whole "Lemmy was created by Nazis" thing was just a story made up by one guy, right? I mean sure, Nazis exist but what they're done is effectively ban the entire world because Nazis exist in the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

What's this, now? Lemmy is infamously made by communists.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

Seems like they don’t quite understand that beehaw is a lemmy instance. They missed the mark.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

LOL. They list Digg as a Reddit alternative.

Someone had a giggle when they wrote that.

[–] Swuden 2 points 2 years ago

Coming full circle at last.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Remember Digg? He's back - in Pog form!

[–] AbouBenAdhem 15 points 2 years ago

I thought beehaw was trying to avoid a big influx of new users right now.

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