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The iOS subreddit now only has NSFW posts (www.reddit.com)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Mereo to c/[email protected]
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From the Moderators:

Hi everyone,

The subreddit will be reopening on Monday 19th June, however there will be substantial rule changes. Reddit has made it abundantly clear that users, not moderators, are the true community leaders and owners of their respective subreddits. So, therefore, we will be changing the community rules to reflect this stance.

Going forward, the only subreddit specific rule is that any content you submit to r/iOS must be something you consider to be iOS related. That's it. It is what the users determine to be 'iOS' content, not us 'landlords' or 'landed gentry' - as spez would say.

Please be aware that the site-wide Reddit rules are still in place, and something we, and Reddit's Anti-Evil operations (AEO) will continue to enforce. For more detail on this, please read Reddit's content policy here.

To sum this up:

No harassment / bullying Respect privacy of others No sexual content of minors No impersonating in a misleading/deceptive manner. Label content correctly (NSFW or not?) No illegal content Do not break/interfere with the website

Reddit enforces these rules and we will be reporting users who break any of those rules to Reddit's AEO team, we encourage every user to report any content that breaks site-wide rules directly to Reddit as well.

You will be banned from this subreddit if you break any of Reddits site-wide rules.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask in the comments below. We will be updating our rule-set to reflect these changes.

For those not aware of the ongoing issues with the reddit admins, and would like to know what the hell is going on, please see the below links to get you up to speed.

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[–] derf82 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I appreciate the protest, but marking the sub NSFW is just the excuse the admins will use to remove all the mods and replace them.

They should have just gone Sesame Street and made the sub about the letters I, O, and S.

[–] Mereo 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On the contrary, I think it's a good protest. It shows that for a subreddit to thrive, the support of the moderators is key. They need to have the right tools for the job and be supported by Reddit. Otherwise the content will be shitty and not worth it for the shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I also think Reddit can't run ads on nsfw subreddits.

[–] derf82 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The issue to me is, by my understanding, incorrectly setting a sub to NSFW is a violation of the mod code of conduct, which gives them an excuse to dump all the mods.

It may be a good protest, but it may also now be a short lived one.

[–] FiendishFork 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah I think making it so low effort content ruins the sub is good enough without allowing NSFW content. I think generally this is the best way for mods to protest though. Let subs become practically useless when community rules no longer are enforced

[–] KazuyaDarklight 15 points 2 years ago

That would still take actual content moderation, their point of protest is spez devaluing the mods. They didn't ask people to post nsfw, they just said, post what you want we're going to moderate to the bare minimum and see just how unimportant mod content guidance is. And here they are apparently. In some ways it works better than the sesame street route as it's a fully user driven stream of live content that can change at any time. I've seen people in the sesame subs complaining about the enforced John Oliver posts and targeting the mods, even though there was a vote, and going to make new subs. There will still be those people but it's harder to blame the mods with this route, imo.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

is just the excuse the admins will use to remove all the mods and replace them.

Not much of a concern, Reddit is going to remove mods anyway. Spez has made it clear that Reddit is going to keep changing around rules to be able to justify removing mods. At some point they'll start allowing random Reddit accounts to use /r/RedditRequest to request "unmoderated" subs aka any sub where the moderators don't seem to be moderating as expected. And/or Reddit will close those subs for being "unmoderated", or they'll temporarily place their own Reddit staff to moderate such subs if the sub is too big to close outright.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I think reddit will learn to value the fact that up until now their moderation and content creation has been totally free to them. Now they'll have to spend resources to correct both of these issues, undermining their entire platforms value and revenue generation potential.

[–] Gamer_Koraq 5 points 2 years ago

Lol, there's no way Spez is going to pay for content moderators. Doing that would cost money whilst also being an admission of defeat.

They'll just force unqualified yes-men into the moderator slots, subsequently leading to absolute catastrophe because content moderation actually requires a hell of a lot of work, and then replace them again. Failed mods get replaced, replacements fail, get replaced with new idiots, wash-rinse-repeat until the entire site is a flaming dumpster fire.

[–] sijt 9 points 2 years ago

Or make it about Cisco’s IOS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_IOS

Same way r/iPhone should be about the Linksys iPhone from the late 90s. That feels like malicious compliance and doesn’t open the door to admin takeover.

[–] 0485919158191 15 points 2 years ago

This is actually hilarious!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

@Mereo

Supposedly NSFW subs can't run ads, therefore this harms reddit way more than memeing the protest.

[–] Mereo 3 points 2 years ago

Didn't know that, even better!

[–] totorohno 2 points 2 years ago

I hope so much that this is true. Pure genius.

[–] RomanRoy 1 points 2 years ago

I wish all the suckers against the blackout knew how wonderful the internet is

[–] philz 7 points 2 years ago

Hahaha I love it. Maybe Apple will have a word with Reddit

[–] le_saucisson_masque -2 points 2 years ago

That’s it. It is what the users determine to be ‘iOS’ content, not us ‘landlords’ or ‘landed gentry’ - as spez would say.

I feel like all these drama is not only about the api change but also because some moderator feel like they are losing their power and use the people anger to feed the protestation. Reddit ceo told he wants to make people vote on their moderator decision.