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Red Bull - European but Far right

Buy European but ... Also with ethical considerations.

Red Bull might sound cool, but they have their own TV station in Austria. (servus TV) And that station js beyond far right. Spreading disinformation, and Russian propaganda, Corona Bullshi, Ivermectint, cleaning stuff with chlorid, climate change deniers, ... If there is a conspiracy they support it ...

(And it's also not very healthy,....)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

I didn’t know redbull was European and I didn’t know servus tv belonged to redbull

[–] CalipherJones 21 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

I am permanently banned from making Reddit accounts because I got about 4 of them banned for "promoting violence".

The violence? Telling people it was a good thing to punch Nazis. Reddit is a Nazi safe space.

[–] docfate 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I got a warning for upvoting pro-Canada stuff like "elbows up". That is apparently promoting violence.

[–] captainlezbian 5 points 2 hours ago

Well yeah, you're promoting the same kind of violence that Ukraine continues to perpetrate on Russia.

[–] CalipherJones 3 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, at this point Reddit is a sinking ship. Been using it for so long too. A little sad to see it go, but it's a shell of what it used to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

o Reddit is no place for normal people

[–] WaitThisIsntReddit 4 points 3 hours ago

Yep, permanently banned here for "ban evasion" though I only know 1 sub I was banned from and I never went there after. That's okay, helped me quit what is clearly a hollow shell of user participation filled with a corpo bot sludge. It's really easy to VPN up and make another account anyway, but why play in the garbage heap?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Interestingly, the site wide rules about violence are only supposed to be credible calls to action. Like if someone was actually planning to murder people and coordinating it on the site.

Saying you'd like to punch someone, even if they aren't a Nazi, isn't against the rules as they are written. Either they don't understand their own rules, they are lazy fuckers who don't want to do their jobs the correct way and actually investigate shit to make sure it actually violates the rules, or they are Nazi pieces of shit.

Not one of these things makes using the site sound like a good idea.

[–] CalipherJones 2 points 1 hour ago

A system is what it does. Action matters more than intent. Reddit bans anti Nazi rhetoric, therefore it is a pro Nazi website.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

In the UK, not a fan of tea or coffee. I rarely use caffeine at all, but there are some days where I'm falling asleep at my desk and I need something.

Any recommendations?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

HOLY energy drink powder works for me. Tastes extremely artificial but I like it at 50% of the recommended dosage. Shop around for some influencer coupon codes, I hope nobody buys at their extremely overinflated original prices.

https://de.weareholy.com/collections/holy-energy

[–] SkyezOpen 2 points 3 hours ago

20 minute nap under the desk.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But also be mindful of the fact that the more rules you add for people to be part of a movement, the less members the movement will have.
The "Buy European" protest is about sending a message of resistance against the current US regime, as well as reducing reliance on US products.
It doesn't require you to only buy ethically spotless products.
That simply isn't possible in our system.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

The post is not a "rule". OP didn't even ask people to stop using Red Bull. I'm glad to have more information.

If you really enjoy Red Bull, you're an adult, make your choices. Personally, I can take it or leave it, so I'll choose to leave it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Bullshit they actively promoting anti corona, pro Putin and far right wing plebs for the last 10 years now! I live in Austria and it's ridiculous you try defend them. Yes they were an awesome tv station back then )until 2017. But nowadays it's just a hate tv!

[–] Bosht 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Wait really? I live in the US granted but I don't want to support any company that does heinous shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

It's greatly exaggerated, on ServusTV they just have all kind of people, so sometimes stupid people are there too. They have this format „Rechts-Links-Mitte“ (right left center) where they typically have around five people with heavily varying positions discussing with each other. So no, it's not them supporting conspiracies but rather trying to find people for these discussions. On the other hand it means that the others get the chance to debunk fake news and conspiracies in those discussions, potentially getting viewers to change their position. You don't achieve that by making these people not watch any discussions because "their guy" isn't there anyway.

Before our election I liked watching their news since the ORF (öffentlich rechtlicher Rundfunk - our official TV where all the important stuff is) only talked about what's wrong with so many people to make them vote for the FPÖ (far right party) and how they could be made reasonable again (blame on the people for voting for that party) while Servus TV talked about why people are voting for them and what other parties potentially could change to gain them back (blame on the parties for making decisions that led to losing voters to the FPÖ) (to clarify, I didn't vote for the FPÖ and never world, I'm heavily opposing quite a few of their policies - regardless I can't deny that they wouldn't be as strong if our other parties acted differently, many people simply are voting for the FPÖ to express their protest which is why its good to discuss about what the other parties should change).

ServusTV also has great documentaries (mostly about Austria and neighbouring countries, for example about a group of mountains (sometimes even singular mountains), or about hiking trails, mountainbiking routes, ski touring, climbing, about a river, a lake, a city, a castle, a church, ...).

My favourite aspect is that Red Bull heavily invests in sports, sponsoring many people that wouldn't be able to follow their (often niche) sport without them.

Absolutely not a company that deserves a boycott imo. (I don't buy anything from them though because I usually only drink water.)

[–] SwordOfOtto 4 points 4 hours ago

That's a half truth.

In that Format mentioned, they always make sure to have a 4 to 1 superiority in numbers against any center or left people and also only have them there for show. It is designed to tell people, that they are open for discussion. But in truth they spread far right propaganda and Russian propaganda. (Which is the same in Austria, since the FPÖ is famously "brought" and backed bay Putin.).

Recently their main host description of Ukraine was "drug fueled Nazi war mongers who attacked Russia".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

This sounds dangerous tbh. I do not really watch ServusTV, nor do I know much about Red Bull business practices but stuff like the "Rechts-Links-Mitte" format sounds like they're giving right wing extremists a platform to spread their misinformation and rhetoric. It might sound like a good idea to have opinions from all different kinds of people but media companies should have a moral duty to educate viewers and not foster misinformation by acknowledging every single opinion. That's why you should be careful with things like these.

Furthermore the wikipedia article does mention ServusTV spreading misinformation about the covid vaccines, citing DerStandard and Tagesschau articles from 2021.

So all in all it seems the political reports on ServusTV should be taken with some suspicion. That does not mean they can't have nice documentaries or sport broadcasts though.

As for Red Bull, they can't really let ServusTV spread misinformation without actually supporting it. Probably makes them more money in some way. Might be a good idea to try out a suitable alternative energy drink if there is one.

[–] thatradomguy 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Without reading the actual post, and my sole reaction to the thread title is: you can purchase Reddit mods?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 hours ago

Holy shit what is up with the reddit mods? I posted a screenshot of a Mastodon post there yesterday, that basically said if youre switching us big tech for eu big tech you're not doing enough and that we have to support decentralized tech. Deleted in 5 minutes because it "posts should be relevant to european made products"

[–] Lucky_777 5 points 7 hours ago

Redbull is trash anyways. The only good thing about Redbull is Vegas Bombs. Otherwise skip out on this trash energy drink

[–] [email protected] 52 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It also tastes like shit and is prohibitively expensive compared to many energy drink brands

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Also has even higher chances of giving you kidney stones than other sodas iirc

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They also support Israel's apartheid and occupation, they are listed on the NoThanks app.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's also owned by the creator of the original Red Bull in Thailand, which is a different company, but it's named after an extreme right wing paramilitary https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Gaurs

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

10 to 15 years back when I still watched tv, I loved Servus TV: news, lots of documentaries, reports and some panel shows. Like, TV before enshittification. Absolutely nothing even remotely close to what this post is suggesting. Has it gone down since then, or is this post misinformation? Can anybody who's still watching TV confirm this?

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[–] cosmicrookie 58 points 13 hours ago (15 children)

I don't drink Red bull but still would like a more thorough article or information about this

[–] [email protected] 77 points 13 hours ago

Wikipedia provides a starting point!

I don't drink it because it's trash, but I had no idea about any of this. The word needs to be spread.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

after having lived in Austria..I'm not buying anything from that racist nazi country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Their F1 team is notorious for one of their most senior staff members spewing racist bullshit with no consequences from ownership, so this doesn't shock me.

Edit: and their team principal having serious sexual misconduct allegations that got "investigated" and quickly swept under the rug.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Would you like to share your experience?

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