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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

SRA represent. For those who aren’t in the know, here’s a news story from the Elm Fork chapter of JBGC.

Also fuck the Dallas express, they use pretty sickening language (vagrants? Really?). Look through the lens of protecting your community (homeless included) to read what really happened.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Authoritarian this, authoritarian that. How about you read this pamhplet by famous authoritarian and co-founder of the Black Panther Party; Huey P. Newton:

We should understand there is a difference between the rebellion of the anarchists and the black revolution or liberation of the black colony.

This is a class society; it always has been. This reactionary class society places its limitations on individuals, not just in terms of their occupation, but also regarding self expression, being mobile, and being free to really be creative and do anything they want to do.

The class-society prevents this. This is true not only for the mass of the lower or subjugated class. It is also true within the ruling class, the master class. That class also limits the freedom of the individual souls of the people which comprise it.

In the upper class, the individuals always try to free themselves from these limitations — the artificial limitations placed upon him through external sources: namely, some hierarchy that goes by the name of State or Governmental Administration.

In America, we have not only a class society, we also have a caste system, and black people are fitted into the lowest caste. They have no mobility for going up the class ladder. They have no privilege to enter into the ruling structure at all.

Within the ruling class they’re objecting (resisting?), because the people have found that they’re completely subjected to the will of the administration and to the manipulators. This brings about a very strange phenomenon in American. That is, many of the rebelling white students and the anarchists are the offspring of this master class. Surely most of them have a middle class background and some even upper class. They see the limitations imposed upon them and no they’re striving, as all men strive, to get freedom of the soul, Freedom of expression, and freedom of movement, without the artificial limitations from antique values.

Blacks and colored people in America, confined within the caste system, are discriminated against as a whole group of people. It’s not a question of individual freedom, as it is for the children of the upper classes. We haven’t reached the point of trying to free ourselves individually because we’re dominated and oppresses as a group of people.

Part of the people of this country — which is a great part — part of the youth themselves. But they’re not doing this as a group of people. Because as a group they’re already free to an extent. Their problem is not a group problem really, because they can easily integrate into the structure. Potentially they’re mobile enough to do this: They’re the educated ones, the “future of the country,” and so forth. They can easily gain a certain amount of power over the society by integrating into the rulership circle.

But they see that even within the rulership circle there are still antique values that have no respect for individualism. They find themselves subjugated. No matter what class they’re in they find themselves subjugated because of the nature of this class society. So their fight is to free the individual’s soul.

This brings about another problem. They’re being ruled by an alien source that has nothing to do with freedom of individual expression. They want to escape this, to overturn this, but they see no need to form a structure or a real, disciplined vanguard movement. Their reasoning is that by setting up a disciplined organization they feel they’d be replacing the old structure with other limitations. They fear they’d be setting themselves up as directing the people, therefore limiting the individual again.

But what they don’t understand, or it seems that they don’t understand, is as long as the military-industrial complex exists, then the structure of oppression of the individual continue. An individual would be threatened even if he were to achieve his freedom he’s seeking. He’ll be threatened because there will be an organized lower group there ready to strip him of his individual freedom at any moment.

In Cuba they had a revolution, they had a vanguard group that was a disciplined group, and they realized that the state won’t disappear until imperialism is completely wiped out, structurally and also philosophically, or the bourgeois thoughts won’t be changed. Once imperialism is wiped out they can have their communist state and the state or territorial boundaries will disappear.

In this country the anarchists seem to feel that if they just express themselves individually and tend to ignore the limitations imposed on them, without leadership and without discipline they can oppose the very disciplined, organized, reactionary state. This is not true. They will be oppressed as long as imperialism exists. You cannot oppose a system such as this is to oppose it with organization that’s even more extremely disciplined and dedicated than the structure you’re opposing.

I can understand the anarchists wanting to go directly from state to non-state, but historically it’s incorrect. As far as I’m concerned, thinking of the recent French Revolution, the reason the French uprising failed is simply because the anarchists in the country, who by definition had no organization, had no people that were reliable enough as far as the mass of the people were concerned, to replace DeGaulle and his government. Now, the people were skeptical about the Communist Party and the other progressive parties, because they didn’t side with the people of medium living. They lagged behind the people, so they lost the respect of the people, and the people looked for guidance from the students and anarchists.

But the anarchists were unable to offer a structural program to replace the DeGaulle government. So the people were forced to turn back to DeGaulle. It wasn’t the people’s fault; it was Cohn-Bendit’s fault and all the other anarchists who felt they could just go from state to non-state.

In this country — getting back home to North America now — we can side with the student radicals. We would try to encourage them and persuade them to organize and weld a sharp cutting tool.

In order to do this they would have to be disciplined and they would have at least some philosophical replacement of the system. This is not to say that this itself will free the individual. The individual will not be free until the state does not exists at all, and I think — I don’t want to be redundant — this cannot be replaced by the anarchists right away.

As far as the blacks are concerned, we are not hung up on attempting to actualize or express our individual souls because we’re oppressed not as individuals but as a whole group of people. Our evolution, or our liberation, is based first on freeing our group. Freeing our group to a certain degree. After we gain our liberation, our people will not be free. I can imagine in the future that the blacks will rebel against the organized leadership that the blacks themselves have structured. They will see there will be limitations, limiting their individual selves, and limiting their freedom of expression. But this is only after they become free as a group.

This is what makes our group different from the white anarchist — besides he views his group as already free. Now he’s striving for freedom of his individual self. This is the big difference. We’re not fighting for freedom of our individual selves, we’re fighting for a group freedom. In the future there will probably be a rebellion where blacks will say, “Well, our leadership is limited our freedom, because of the rigid discipline. Now that we’ve gained our freedom, we will strive for our individualistic freedom that has nothing to do with organized group or state.” And the group will be disorganized, and it should be.

But at this point we stress discipline, we stress organization, we do not stress psychedelic drugs, and all the other things that have to do with just the individual expansion of the mind. We’re trying to gain true liberation of a group of people, and this makes our struggle somewhat different from the whites.

Now, how is it the same. It’s the same in the fact that both of us are striving for freedom. They will not be free — the white anarchists will not be free — until we are free so that makes our fight their fight really. The imperialists and the bourgeois bureaucratic capitalistic system would not give them individual freedom while they keep a whole group of people based upon race color oppressed as a group. How can they expect to get individual freedom when the imperialists oppress whole nations of people? Until we gain liberation as a group they won’t gain any liberation as an individual person. So this makes our fight the same, and we must keep this in perspective, and always see the similarities and the differences in it.

There’s a tremendous amount of difference in it, and there’s a due amount of similarities between the two cases. Both are striving for freedom, and both are striving for liberation of their people, only one is advanced to a degree higher than the other. The anarchists are advanced a step higher, but only in theory. As far as actuality of conditions, they shouldn’t be advanced higher because they should see the necessity of wiping out the imperialistic structure by organized groups just as we must be organized.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

This is what makes our group different from the white anarchist — besides he views his group as already free. Now he’s striving for freedom of his individual self. This is the big difference. We’re not fighting for freedom of our individual selves, we’re fighting for a group freedom.

This is the clearest description on the fundamental core of anarchism; Huey put it perfectly. It just shows that anarchists have more in common foundationally with libertarians than actual socialists. Anarchists are individualists, and as such, see any fight towards the collective liberation of society at odds with their line of thinking. It's also why anarchism is predominantly seen as a Western phenomena; individualism is central to capitalism, and especially the US (i.e. "rugged individualists"), so in ther mind they attempt to consolidate the two forms of thinking: they want to keep the benefits of being the privileged of the world in the center of imperialism and keep in line with its alienated and individualist nature, but twist what liberation would mean for the working class into an edgy ideology of "no gods, no masters".

Anarchism or Socialism really hones in on that point as well.

The point is that Marxism and anarchism are built up on entirely different principles, in spite of the fact that both come into the arena of the struggle under the flag of socialism. The cornerstone of anarchism is the individual, whose emancipation, according to its tenets, is the principal condition for the emancipation of the masses, the collective body. According to the tenets of anarchism, the emancipation of the masses is impossible until the individual is emancipated. Accordingly, its slogan is: “Everything for the individual.” The cornerstone of Marxism, however, is the masses, whose emancipation, according to its tenets, is the principal condition for the emancipation of the individual. That is to say, according to the tenets of Marxism, the emancipation of the individual is impossible until the masses are emancipated. Accordingly, its slogan is: “Everything for the masses.”

Clearly, we have here two principles, one negating the other, and not merely disagreements on tactics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's good practice to link the pamphlet or at least name it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I hadn't come across this great writing yet, thank you

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] phthalocyanin 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

love btb.

I would also recommend

"it could happen here"

"cool people who did cool stuff"

"live like the world is dying"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Poor prole's almanac is also pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Wait, there's actually a place for me?!

[–] BackOnMyBS 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

joined! im not really a firearms enthusiast, but im prepared in case the right wing-nut militias start getting out of control

[–] IgnoreKassandra 4 points 2 years ago

Amen. I don't like guns, I don't feel comfortable around them, but if those fucking lunatics get them I guess I have to have them too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)
[–] phthalocyanin 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

those individuals who promote the dismantling of capitalism, rejection of heirarchical systems of power, and wish to share in discussion with others of a similar radical liberatory philosophy, particularly on the subject of armed defense of the self and the community.

[–] Arbiter 15 points 2 years ago

John Brown and Malcolm X enjoyers

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Basically a libertarian socialist/anarchist gun club

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A better version of the SRA that hasn't been taken over by the PSL

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

A better version of the SRA that hasn't been taken over by the PSL

Someone explain please, I'm curious.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The SRA is the Socialist Rifle Association. It started out as a group of all flavors of leftists (anarchists, MLs, demsocs and everything in between) working together to create a positive gun culture for leftism and to train people to defend their communities and themselves during the rise of the alt-right and Donald Trump-style fascism in the States.

However, many branches of the PSL (Party for Socialism and Liberation, a strongly ML political party in the States) decided that the SRA was the perfect vehicle for them and so instructed their members who were also members of the SRA to do everything they could to push out the anarchists and demsocs. Now it is just another branch of the PSL.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

instructed their members who were also members of the SRA to do everything they could to push out the anarchists and demsocs

HA. At least they're keeping it historically consistent.
Hurr durr muh leftist unity, hurr durr.

Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yep, tankies never change

I'm not American myself and this was just explained by a few American friends of mine who were formerly in the SRA and even had leadership roles in their chapters; one was a demsoc and two were anarchists. In my own country there are almost no MLs; they came to power back in the 60s and 70s as part of our national liberation but then they just ended up being power hungry, as all MLs eventually become (or were in the first place). Nobody has faith in them anymore so anybody who is leftist is pretty much anarchist or at least demsoc.

And anybody who praises the government of North Korea has absolutely zero moral high ground on which to stand

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, our MLs have been in power for a couple of decades, led to us having a disgusting state-capitalist dictatorship with a poor socialist veil that corrupted our society to such a degree that we haven't recovered from it not even 3 decades after the regime fell.
What's even funnier is that western MLs aren't fond of our so-called communist dictatorship because it happened to oppose the soviet dictatorship.

But yeah, to put it mildly, I'm not exactly fond of these kinda people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hear you. I assume you're from a former Eastern bloc country or Yugoslavia based on the description you just gave. It was really terrible for yall I feel because the MLs were immediately replaced by rent-seeking capitalist oligarchs who picked off the bones of yall's societies. Even worse that the ML governments suppressed all traditional culture to the point that now it's gone 100% in the opposite direction so that a lot of the people celebrating the traditional culture and straight-up fascists, so if a regular person wants to celebrate traditional culture they're grouped with those fascists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yugoslavia

Ohhh, if only lmao. Yugos had it quite decent... well, for a while at least, then unchecked nationalism made everything go to shit.
But no, we were Yugoslavia's northern neighbor - RSR = Socialist Republic of Romania, we had it so bad that we were escaping to Yugoslavia and the serbs were smuggling all sort of things into our country and sell it on the black market.

And it went so well for those sellers that the entire country knew about the black markets close to the Danube. You could get jeans, brand t-shirts, Kent cigarettes, sweets, electronic watches from Albania, radios, chewing gum that looked like cigarettes and vegeta lol

MLs were immediately replaced by rent-seeking capitalist oligarchs who picked off the bones of yall's societies

Yes and no. Because of the nature of our "revolution" (when we executed Ceausescu and his multi-doctoral and academic wife who didn't know how to read properly and who also pronounced CO2 as in cotwo and not "see-oo-two"), we didn't have any actual justice served. The rest of the system got away with it. The old political class continued to rob us, the torturers from the Securitate weren't punished. Those with political connections got their hands on property and badly managed/unproductive factories and instead of bringing them up to western or even half-way decent standards they sold them for scrap iron - literally.

Even worse that the ML governments suppressed all traditional culture to the point that now it's gone 100% in the opposite direction so that a lot of the people celebrating the traditional culture and straight-up fascists, so if a regular person wants to celebrate traditional culture they're grouped with those fascists.

See, for us it didn't happen like that. That's why in present-day politics our "social democrats" are basically just (corrupt) conservatives, almost identical to our "national liberals" (these are 1% less corrupt). And it is centrist/center-right neolibs types that are the most progressive one. Shit's a fuck, lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Holy shit that all sounds like an absolute nightmare. Good information to know though, I appreciate you sharing.

[–] jcqzu 8 points 2 years ago

Socialist Rifle Association and potentially the Party for Socialism and Liberation, unless they mean Pumpkin Spice Lattes, which is very possible

[–] phthalocyanin 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Ah. Of course.

[–] minimar 2 points 2 years ago

Amazing article, I should read more of this library.

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[–] IgnoreKassandra 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not one of these guys masturbating over my dream revolution or anything, but armed minorities are harder to oppress, and are less tempting targets for individual or group violence.

I'm a queer guy in Portland. There are violent extremists in my town who want to kill me, and are organizing and rallying. I've seen them in the streets, and they've attacked people and places I care about because they know that the left wing is broadly non-violent, and that cops are on their side.

Looking at the political climate in the US, I don't think it's too unreasonable of a reaction to buy a gun and learn to defend yourself, just in case.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How leftist is the group? Further than liberal?

[–] phthalocyanin 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

neoliberalism is a conservative philosophy which seeks to perpetuate an unjust and unsustainable capitalist hegemony.

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