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Shout them down in every space, make them embarrased to think the stupid shit they think.

If we don't embarrass and correct them now we will have to kill them later when they come for our friends and families.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

norse mythology: the bisexual dude who has a meathead son and an adopted genderfluid kid. doesn't go anywhere without his horse-grandson. knows everything will go wrong when they get a dog.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago) (1 children)

Does that go for liberal or philosophical ideals like free speech?

I come across a bit of rhetoric identifying free speech as a right-wing authoritarian cause, arguing that they "claim, twist, poison, ruin" it, so it's fine to give it up and no longer defend it.

Those rhetoricians seem to have a skewed or ahistorical disregard for the advances in political philosophy from the enlightenment era that got society out of the dark ages, away from authoritarianism & toward political plurality & liberal democracy. Freedom of speech was a foundational development & its growth enabled the civil rights movements that followed.

Yet according to the rhetoric, it's a problem now that right-wing authoritarians claim is as part of their cause. They'll just let them claim & define it, and now that free speech is wrong (since they let right-wingers "have" it), it's okay to limit & undermine it.

One might think they're right-wing authoritarians in disguise trying to dupe everyone into threatening the foundations of liberal society. Whether or not they are, there's a good chance they'll show up here possibly in response to this comment. Is there a name for that type of rhetoric or the people who argue it?

Anyway, it all seems like capitulation to me. I think letting fascists claim such philosophical ideals is a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

Free Speech is the right to have and express opinions without being repressed by the government. Yelling fire in a theatre is not an opinion any more than harassing people with racial slurs or other forms of flatulence.

Nobody is giving free speech to fascists. Ignorant assholes are misappropriating the term to justify their disgusting behaviour and they're the only one's falling for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Let's let them have nu-metal... that'll show them.

[–] bradd 2 points 16 minutes ago

Nu-metal is great. Not all of it but Korn and System of a Down, a lot of great bands were labeled "nu-metal".

[–] clonedhuman 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's a specific breed of online Nazis who insist that it's 'punk' to be Conservative.

[–] DicJacobus 2 points 2 hours ago

fascists are even trying to steal the identity and word of conservatisim.

conservatives of 12-15 years ago are liberal by todays standards.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I had to stop wearing my Mjølner pendant because of those fucks. So I fully agree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

You didn't have to. That's called relenting. Could have worn a "fuck fascists" message alongside it? Maybe it was easier to give up that battle?

[–] DicJacobus 1 points 2 hours ago

Not wrong at all, the Nazi Party co-opted and stole countless icons and imagery, the swastika itself was stolen.

and the modern day Nazi Party in Russia at least, tries to steal entire letters of the Latin alphabet.

[–] Holyhandgrenade 29 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I have a Celtic knot tattoo on my forearm (actually it's the album cover of King Crimson's album Discipline).
My British friend told me I shouldn't display that in public in the UK because people might think I'm a neonazi.
I'm like fuck no, Celtic symbols don't belong to Nazis and I won't let them have it! Also, it's a prog album cover wtf

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Respect for having Discipline cover tattooed on your forearm

[–] nyctre 5 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, prog rock's not very popular so most people won't recognize it as what it is, unfortunately.. However, I wear band tshirts like 80% of the time and by far the best reactions were to my Rush Tshirt. Followed by Riverside and KGLW.

Anyway, fuck nazis !

[–] lepinkainen 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They already took flags in multiple countries.

It’s always iffy when you carry the flag of your country because the people who do that tend to be assholes. Let’s not let them get anything else.

And take the flags back too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Yep. 100% true in Sweden. They've been doing it since the 90s.

[–] Doctor_Satan 28 points 7 hours ago

Nazis are cultural parasites.

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