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[–] Nerrad 16 points 1 year ago

Good. I haven't been able to replace a battery since my S4.

[–] xfts 15 points 1 year ago

W move for the EU. Very glad they're mandating stuff that should have been common place to begin with (ex. USB C on iPhones).

[–] TheFence 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is awesome! I hope the EU Compliant phones come overseas too!

[–] burretploof 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Probably kinda likely, I think?

Manufacturing, storing, shipping and supporting two different models of basically the same phone is probably more expensive than just deploying the one model with the removable battery everywhere.

To elaborate a bit: This is very different than providing models with different radios/modems for different markets. A different radio/modem probably only requires a single, different component(?). A model with a replacable battery requires a different battery design, a different case design, different seals (to make it waterproof) and most likely a different PCB layout, too. That is a tremendous amount of effort compared to swapping out a component or two on an otherwise identical phone.

That's why I think it's not unlikely that replacable batteries might become much more common globally once this law is being implemented and applied.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy fuck this is insane. EU is doing something right (still salty about them wanting encryption keys but provisions to improve repair of hardware is big)

[–] Evono 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This i fucking loved the times around Samsung S4 , i literarily could just go and buy a replacement battery on amazon even with 200 MAH more snap the old one out and new one in BAM better battery.

Exchanging battery for my Poco x3 pro is complicated and would cost me atleast 70-80€ thats literarily half the device lol

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[–] paulie420 13 points 1 year ago

Wow ; thats pretty amazing - now I have even more respect for them thinking ahead and going after the USB-C ports first... this could force manufacturers to give us a better product - I'll be watching this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

My last phone bit the dust because I made the mistake of taking it apart to repair it. It became a gluey piece of garbage. If I want it be waterproof I'll stick it in a sandwich bag. Or maybe the manufacturer can use the novel tech of gaskets.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

LET'S GOOOOO

[–] Guud723 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Holy. 👍

I wonder how thick phones will be because of this, what about phones with dual-cell battery? I know some of them do this for faster charging speed.

[–] raltoid 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There were 8mm(0.31in) thick phones with removable batteries 5-6 years ago(phones like the Samsung J series).

iphone 14(fall 2022) does not feature a removable battery and is 7.8mm(0.309in).

Meaning you literally wont be able to tell the difference.

In fact, there were 7.5mm ones with a replacable battery a few years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had a cubot power which had an "non-removeable" battery. The running time was about two days with medium usage. I thought probably they packed every remaining space with battery which explains a non removeable one.

So I broke it a few weeks ago and decided to check out the battery. Turns out it was just that they glued the shit out of the backplate (which was more work to get of than the screen which glue already gave up) and put a normal sized battery in wich had no quick connector attached, but one of those flimsy wires that fall apart if you look at them wrong. The same shit apple introduced in their ipods.

There is and never was any reason for "non removeable batteries" other than prohibiting the user from repairing the most common failure point of a phone!

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[–] MrMarques8701 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question is, easily removable by the user or easily removable by a specialist with the right tools?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Good! I loved having removable batteries, especially while traveling. Just carry a charged battery and hotswap them instead of having to find a plug to camp by for 30-60 minutes

[–] LillianVS 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So many solid wins for EU, so exciting! If it means things become much easier then having to remove a bunch of components just to get to the battery to replace it. I am in.

I honestly don't have too many issues removing the back with a spuger and heat... Provided they make it so you can replace it just as well. The majority of the reasons people dispose of smart phones and buy a new phone is due to the battery degrading. It costs a lot just to replace it. Swappable batteries increases the longevity of a phone, means I can daily drive my phone for longer. Which is what I want... My pixel 5a battery is already degrading pretty badly. I like my phone but I feel disappointed I didn't get more usage out of it.

I saw how to replace it, and to do so it means removing a lot of components including the screen... And even though they sell replacement parts including screens they do not for whatever reason sell 5a screens to the UK it honestly baffles me...

Google doing some things for right to repair but much like other companies. It does feel like they are dragging their feet a little bit.

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