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For example, let’s say I wanted to start a community around some topic, but I felt that lemmy.dbzer0.com was better suited for it than slrpnk.net. But I want to keep my account on slrpnk.net as the account that moderates the community. Is that possible?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You can moderate and own one from a remote one, but there is some issues with reports federating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You can moderate remote communities, but you can't create ones. Though you can "own" (be the top mod) in one iirc.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

You can mod a community on an instance other than your home, but you have to be appointed. You can only create a community on your home instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you can get someone else with a local account to open the community they can hand it over to your slrpnk.net account afterwards. Most of the many previous bugs around moderation functions have been fixed in 0.19.8/9.

However there are two main issues remaining:

  1. You will rarely get any reports as those do not properly federate right now. A fix is supposedly in the works for the next Lemmy release, but this has been promised a few times with limited success.

  2. If de-federated instances differ then you can end up with impossible to moderate situations. For example hexbear.net is blocked by slrpnk.net but it is not blocked by lemmy.dbzer0.com. This means people from that instance can post to the community, but these post are entirely invisible to you as a moderator with an account from slrpnk.net.

My recommendation is that you do not do remote moderation alone. At best you can help someone with an account on that remote instance to moderate a remote community.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Stovetop 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You can moderate communities on other instances, but you can't create one yourself.

Grabbed a screenshot of the mod list of [email protected], for example, which shows a few different instances represented within the mod team.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Afaik reports are not federated yet, so mods from other instances won't get report notifications, but otherwise the same tools are available for them. So possible, but limited.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reports federate, in a limited way. They federate to the instance the community is hosted on, the instance the reported user is hosted on, the instance the reporting user is hosted on (well technically, it doesn't federate to the last one, as that is where it started). I don't believe that a report will federate to a remote instance that doesn't meet one of those criteria, even if it hosts a moderator for the community, but I'm not certain about this one.

Either way, report resolutions don't directly federate, so resolving a report doesn't resolve it on the other instances. It looks like they federate, because post removal from a mod federates, and removing a post auto closes the report. However, a report that was spurious or a troll or whatever that isn't going to be actioned, has to be manually closed down on each instance it federates to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I don’t believe that a report will federate to a remote instance that doesn’t meet one of those criteria, even if it hosts a moderator for the community, but I’m not certain about this one.

That's pretty much the issue with remote reports. In practical terms that means the vast majority of the reports are not delivered to the person moderating. For example I moderate /c/[email protected] and I rarely get any reports from that community on my slrpnk.net account, and it is a popular community with lots of reports according to my co-moderator with a feddit.org account.

Apparently there is a fix in the works for Lemmy 0.20/1.0 but that release is still a while out according to the devs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You also can't add mods using a remote account: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38312525/16893470

Editing the community sidebar doesn't work: https://lemm.ee/post/53298142/17673948

You can't also update the banner and the avatar: https://lemm.ee/post/53298142/17674272

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Post pinning is also pretty wonky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

@[email protected]
Bro is very adamant to close that community lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The long answer is that you need a local alt to open the community, and if you then try to use the remote account to mod you will get issues.

You also can't add mods using a remote account: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38312525/16893470

Editing the community sidebar doesn't work: https://lemm.ee/post/53298142/17673948

You can't also update the banner and the avatar: https://lemm.ee/post/53298142/17674272

[–] a887dcd7a 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ehm. I’m not. I asked where the majority lays, spoke with feddit.org admins and opened a local account just in case that I need to step up.

But thanks for the misinterpretation and spreading false infos.

Edit: shame, shame, shame.. I misunderstood @[email protected] like the monkey I am.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I meant that the person I replied to was adamant to get you to close that community. And they are very much against non-local mods, without presenting any reasons. Außerdem bin ich im Matrix channel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

without presenting any reasons.

Not sure what you mean, I gave reasons every time

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39072798/17039243

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was referring to this specific post, where you did not provide reasons at first. I do understand (and know) that non-local modding is buggy, but just "No" doesn't help much, especially for people who don't know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I was in a rush, thankfully other people clarified

[–] a887dcd7a 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah, also butchered the wording. Two words more and my intention would've been clear, but I was too lazy.

I'm actually in favor of keeping the community, because that's just another part of decentralization. And I've never even noticed the other community, and likely would've not bothered to search for a replacement, had it just been closed.

Du schaffst das btw :3

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And I’ve never even noticed the other community, and likely would’ve not bothered to search for a replacement, had it just been closed.

The way it is usually done is that when locking the old community you point out to the new community

[–] a887dcd7a 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just edited my post.

feddit.org is a nice community. Never had so much interaction on other servers. Basically I had a great first day at school.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder, aren't you on lemmy for ~2 years already? Or do you mean the conversations in the matrix channel?

[–] a887dcd7a 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My lemmy interaction was quite limited up until today.

Some time ago, when the first reddit migration happend, I took over a stale community. It faded and there was nothing to moderate, write or comment. Also most communities I'm subscribed to, do not produced so much relevant content. I fell back to reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah, okay. I was lucky that my reddit account got banned anyway, so ... there's no temptation to go back anyway (and the UI is horrible, and the old client I used (Infinity) had a lemmy fork (Eternity) after a few days after the API stuff).

So yeah, welcome I guess :3

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Youd make a dbzero account, make the community, post from your slrpnk account and appoint yourself a mod

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You also can't add mods using a remote account: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38312525/16893470

Editing the community sidebar doesn't work: https://lemm.ee/post/53298142/17673948

You can't also update the banner and the avatar: https://lemm.ee/post/53298142/17674272

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have been able to do all of those things with remote accounts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, the appointing a remote mod not working is a recent example.

In which community were you able to appoint a mod using a remote account?

Another example from today pinning a post doesn't work:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

[email protected] I appointed my .ee account after hearing that remote moderation did not work.

I have pinned and unpinned a post in [email protected]

I have added a community avatar to [email protected] and changed it within a week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, then I don't know why it didn't work for @[email protected] earlier...

I might do some testing later this week if I have some time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I just added my .ee account to the mods of [email protected] from my Sopuli account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Interesting

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lemmyshitpost on lemmy.world currently has a mod from startrek.website. Not sure if that means you can create it but it seems that you can at least be listed as a mod.