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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Off-topic, anyone remember the early days of rockpapershotgun? Goddamn i miss the stylings of the og writers. Now it's just another game site but I'll never forget some of their early pieces

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

Yeah, they had a really good thing going on and it's sad that it didn't last.

[–] mattc 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Guess I will stick to warframe, No Man's Sky and BG3.

[–] Tattorack 2 points 4 hours ago

Just recently start Skyrim again, with a laundry list of mods, of course.

[–] B0NK3RS 147 points 1 day ago (11 children)

In the grand scheme of nickel-and-diming I wouldn't call this abysmal

This is the mentality that ruins it for the rest of us. It's shameful.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

counterpoint: it's the far more prevalent mentality of "blaming foolish consumers" that ruins it for the rest of us.

Expecting consumers to ever do differently at scale is a dead-end fantasy we all need to stop having.

Only market regulation stops manipulative market practices.

Doing anything less then "advocating for laws to stop this shit" izza giant waste of brain cells, yet i see threads of people making that useless case every time something like this happens.

Change will not come from consumers voting with their wallets, FULL STOP

If someone readin thinking it will, NEVER think this again.

Hey! I see you, looking for an example of consumer action making a difference: Go find me 100 more. You'll need about 100 to start make up for alla times deregulation have hurt and currently hurting consumers now.

Hear me: anyone advocating for consumer action or blaming consumers is doing them companies dry-fucking us a huge favor. These bad actors can and will continue as long as it is legal to do so.

[–] LePoisson 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

When it comes to video games, idgaf if someone wants to give a game dev thousands of their own dollars because they want to pay an idiot tax.

It's a free market, and we're all free to just not play the fucking game. Actually that's the default so just doing nothing is plenty.

I get what you're saying but we're not talking about groceries here, we're talking about something that could literally cease to exist and aside from some folks maybe being out of work nobody would even notice or care. I do agree though that strong regulation is much better than expecting consumers to stop consuming something as long as it's a necessary thing or something with quite inelastic demand (ie: medicine).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Yeah, i don't disagree with a thing ya wrote. I'm not claiming that people shouldn't care; just that it's better to push for regulatory change rather than trying to affect change thru collective consumer action/raising awareness.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

Well scratch that off of a game I will ever play

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Don't buy these predatory games, refund if you did. Stop supporting these scummy companies, it's the only way they will learn.

[–] EncryptKeeper 2 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

Capcom regularly puts out certified bangers. I’ll keep buying their games for as long as those games are high quality experiences are worth the money. They can learn about microtransactions by me not buying those lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I've been a die hard MH fan for like 20-25 years or something ridiculous. I'm gonna buy and play this game, don't really care what people think about the gaming industry

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Good little consumer... patpat

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry I took time out of my week raising a family, working full time, and trying to build a mass movement to fight against the worst abuses of our economic system to enjoy something sometimes and that it offends your vendetta against the oil and gas Industr... Oh sorry I meant industrial agricult... Wait it's the gaming Industry? You're mad about a game? Okay buddy

[–] Tudsamfa 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

You can always be mad at 2 or more things at once, and how the gaming industry sucks out money from the consumer to pay their executives should be one of these.

In all the industries you mentioned, "voting with your wallet" is a thing that's universally accepted as effective but at times hard to do. In gaming, it couldn't be easier, you can literally safe money by buying anything cheaper from the indie sphere, not buy anything at all and play games you already own, wait 2 weeks and get a 2nd hand copy, or the unnamed 4th thing.

And the impact is more than just having a worse game to enjoy. As much as we like to laugh at people for their bad financial decisions, some people just cannot think rational about these things, and every game that includes microtransactions is simply not safe for them. Casino's are heavily regulated for a reason, it is perversive brain stimulation with decades of research behind it, and we invited it into our consoles and computers for kids to enjoy. And more and more people just expect games to be predatory, and it warps how they think of the effort put into games. Being a functional, complete game without any in game purchases used to be the minimum. But if you expect anyone to have your mental fortitude, that no kid will wander into this menu and that everyone has an unalterable image of the industry, feel free to support this.

Genshin Impact lies at the end of this road.

You do not have to support these decisions. You can be a Monster Hunter and Capcom fan, and not buy into the hype. Vote with your wallet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't believe in voting with your wallet, I believe in organizing. Individuals can never stand against an organization. A large group of individuals doing what they think is right but not working together can't win against even a much smaller organized force. In fact I think that your idea is little more than propaganda to keep the masses weakened in the face of power that is intentionally organized against us.

But I don't play monster hunter to engage in political theory, I do it because it is a highly technical game with a steep learning curve. For whatever reason, a major stress reliever for me is to perform difficult actions with my hands. That's all I want.

We are all treat brained little piggies in our own way, it shouldn't be controversial. I don't play genshin impact but if you do, whatever. Like I said, I work full time, I have a life full of family and friends, and I volunteer my time and energy to make my community better. If I wanna spend $70 on one of the like 3 game series that I really like, I shouldn't have to justify that to other gamers ffs. The problem with the gaming industry is a problem with capitalism, its called the tendency for the rate of profit to fall. Enshitification has been a proven phenomenon about for like 150 years. Voting with your dollars is pointless when it is the dollars themselves which are the problem.

[–] Tudsamfa -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The commenter you replied to was basically just informing people not to buy. You made a great showing that you were going to buy anyway and you don't care. That is something you need to justify, not the buying itself. No one would even know if you didn't go out of your way to tell everyone.

And yes, what you do is good, but takes time to amount to anything. In the mean time, it is perfectly acceptable to also pursue methods that work in the short term. We aren't just individuals on a forum, we are public opinion. As flawed as it is, that's still better than the apathy you promote in your first comment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the comment I responded to initially: https://midwest.social/post/23827090/15643582

Capcom regularly puts out certified bangers. I’ll keep buying their games for as long as those games are high quality experiences are worth the money. They can learn about microtransactions by me not buying those lol.

I was agreeing with someone else, and was sarcastically called a "good little consumer." Which fine, but I'm going to respond. So no, the comment I initially responded to was not informing people not to buy, the next I responded to was a sarcastic remark, and the next was, I believe flawed, justification for why its objectively wrong to buy a game? Or buy it on day one, or something.

Is the objective to silence me? To make me follow along with a mainstream opinion that I don't agree with? I just want to play the new MH and not be made to feel bad about it.

Maybe I'm not as up to date on all the nuances of this argument, but how do you think I feel when I spend significant time and energy learning and educating about political theory and practice, just to have people disagree with me from a point of ignorance?

Maybe its just something you all are gonna have to learn to deal with, having people who share your interests but not your opinions disagree with you.

[–] Tudsamfa 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, sorry, one comment up from that one was the one I thought you responded too. Doesn't change anything though as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think there is anything left to say, good luck with that Revolution thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

And good luck voting with your dollars

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they have been doing this for a while. at least since dragons dogma online. In monster hunter worlds I used cheats to give myself the cosmetic edit currency item but no idea if that works in any others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

DD2 is highly cheatable and moddable, the cash shop is just a really poor joke honestly. The game has absolutely no way to check for cheating unless you give your pawn equipment they can't actually use or edit their stats to be something impossible.

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