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[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

It’s been 8 years of the lesser evil with Democrats and I’m sick of them. I cannot in good conscience support them any longer because they have time and again chosen to maintain the status quo.

The Biden administration did many things to help Americans, most notably the Inflation Reduction Act and the student debt forgiveness. But most of it is being dismantled by the current administration. And the Dems knew this would be the case. Yet they chose to go the executive order route or the highly diluted down IRA. It’s not the people’s problem that you cannot get your party members in line. Why would we vote for you if you cannot deliver?

Nancy Pelosi chose not to even allow the bill to prevent members of Congress from insider trading. Republicans are using it to line their pockets like never before. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Well the people are sick of your hypocrisy and it showed in the elections.

It’s been more than a month of rapid fire gutting of the US government. What has the party done as the main opposition besides “coming up with a strategy”? Because it’s impossible to do anything meaningful without revealing how much you have gained from the system.

The Democrats who truly care about change need to spin off their own party. That’s the only way enough people will be mobilized to make a meaningful difference in the next elections.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Liberals think Democrats aren't half to blame for this shitty country being the way it is.

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[–] DarkSpectrum 1 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

A democratic that is average at democracy is better than a conservative who is great at authoritarianism.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's an unfortunate trait of the reddit migrations. That place was crawling with die-hard liberals, not entirely dissimilar to scabies. It stands to reason a few of the uninitiated would find their way here.

In spite of how I started this comment, we must remember that they are of the working class, and further division is a benefit exclusive to the capitalist.

I feel that the further we sink into full-blown fascism, the more of them will become aware, and may be counted among allies one day soon.

I plan to speak to those who are willing to listen and learn. But beware the contentious fool, ever seeking a debate but never trying for understanding.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

.world got the liberals that were too delusional for reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I agree, but the fact that they even came here gives me hope that they are open to change. It's the ones who stayed on reddit are the lost causes, I think.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Looook,

We are ALL going to Hell, FAST (choose your doom(CC,WWIII,etc).

We are all in the same car, here -like it, or not.

One party, …I’ll let you guess which 😉, has the accelerator pinned to the mat. “We’ll be there in 5 minutes, Boys!! HELL ON EARTH HERE WE COME!”

The other party, is simply driving at half that speed. Results are the same. They are flawed. But they CAN slow the car to give us a bit more time to “brace for impact”. But they too bought into Hell as a destination.

But ya, we’re ALL fucked no matter how much you pledge to one party or the other. One party just whispers in your ear and it’s a bit more gentle while they fuck your already ragged ass.

The other party just dry-humps you violently until your blood provides enough lube for them to finish while pounding their chest as you lie there, bleeding out of your ass on the nice, clean sheets.

That about sums it up from my perspective.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The problem with this is that it assumes both parties act independently.

You know how right now how Republicans are willing to use every loophole, cite ancient forgotten laws, and violate every norm? That's always been possible. You can't actually write a constitution to constrain bad-faith actors. You can always come up with a bogus interpretation to do what you want.

If this is possible, you have to ask, why did leaders ever try to follow the law in good faith? How was it ever possible to establish a norms-based stability when either side could knock over the board at any moment?

The answer is that good-faith interpretation of the law fails when people only do so out of principle. It succeeds when good-faith interpretation is a peace treaty. Both sides agree to follow the law in good faith, as the alternative is complete chaos as both sides try to twist every loophole.

Democrats are a bunch of liberal arts majors that have forgotten that Democracy and the rule of law does not exist because everyone worships them as high ideals. They exist because they are a compromise, a peace treaty.

Republicans break norms. In response, Dems latch on even tighter to the norms. Instead, they should be seeking to break them at every opportunity they can. They need to be as ruthless as the Republicans, and even more so.

Following the rule of law is hard. It means giving up power and results that you could otherwise achieve by violating the rule of law.

Right now, only Democrats are trying to obey every norm and precedent. As such, Republicans have nothing to lose by violating these. It's all upside to them. Their bad behavior is the direct result of Democratic cowardice. If Democrats were willing to give as well as they get, we could actually have a rules-based order again. Paradoxically, a prerequisite for rules to be effective is that both sides need to be willing to violate them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

As I like to say, "The moral high road is filled with corpses"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Well said!

In short, fire with fire. …can’t fight a war with one hand tied to your balls, etc.

Dems have forgotten this. They need a leader to remind them and lead the charge.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

if someone told you that, that's what their sex life was like; you would assume that they're a damaged person who needs psychiatric help and those psychiatrist would try to help steer them away from sex partners like that and towards healthier sex partners.

even our neighbors to the south have learned this fact and made their own sex lives better; but we americans are like battered spouses who keep bouncing back and forth between the same 2 abusive lovers because we both refuse to accept how damaged we truly are and because the more damaged among us keep re-inforcing the propaganda that voting democrat or republican is the only "grown up" choice to make as the "adults in the room".

we're only destined for hell if we keep rejecting a third party; places like mexico have already proved that things get A LOT better once you stop carrying the propaganda that third party is "throwing away" your vote.

(or atleast until you get the america's attention and they send in their military and bankers to force you back into those abusive relationships... again).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The United States of America is more important then the Democratic Party.

With state level electoral reform, we could give 3rd parties the freedom to participate in the electoral process without a spoiler effect.

No more hostage situation, more options, elections could be a competition to defeat the republicans/make things better, more democracy.

Who could say no to more democracy?

Republicans? Why of course they would say no. They are passing legislation in red states to protect First-past-the-post voting. In Alaska they held a referendum last election to go back to FPTP voting because Sarah Palin was kept out of office by their Ranked Choice voting system. It didn't pass, the people dont want FPTP anymore in Alaska.

How about the blue states and the democrats that are elected there. Do they support democracy? I guess that would depend on if they are still using FPTP when the mid term elections are hopefully held.

It's not to late, we can have more choices in the voting booth. We can have more then one chance to defeat the republicans.

Videos on Electoral Reform

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

STAR voting

Alternative vote

Ranked Choice voting

Range Voting

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The blue MAGA types are moooostly on .world, but they have the most users, so... .ml are mostly CCP with the same degree of dedication, and blahaj is that but with Likud. I just block .world and blahaj because they are right wingers beyond saving.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Libs think they're the party it's so sad lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

well said. you can pretty much extrapolate this line of thought to every soc-dem, left-of-center, liberal party in the world. they make a wiener water government, blame people when they lose elections and are left wondering why people didn't called their wiener water government a bouillabasse or an onion soup.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

I do believe the requirement is that you just need to be specific. Republicans generally suck all around right now so that's a valid statement.

However, if you're going to complain about Democrats you need to say something like, "the leadership sucks" or, "there's too many rich people influencing the party!"

That's been my experience so far 🤷

[–] notsoshaihulud -3 points 9 hours ago (11 children)

Lemmy.ml; sigh.

Wake me up when you provide a feasible plan that doesn't involve ritual self-mutiliation.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (9 children)

Yeah Democrats sucks, but to in any way imply that Republicans are the solution is just bootlicking at this point. One is a political party and one is dismantling the country for profit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

I think Green Party politician Peter Camejo said it most succinctly: "Democrats are not the answer."

And they aren't. The Democrats have so successfully neutered the left that nobody has any idea what leftist talking points even are. People are so desperate that they voted for Donald fucking Trump. Twice.

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[–] Hikermick -5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah and how are things turning out for Palestinians and trans people? Do you think if the US pulled support for Isreal the fighting in Gaza would have stopped? Isreal would have turned to another country for their help and the US would have lost access to their intelligence in the middle east. A loss for the US and a gain for Russia or China. Neither choice is a good one one for the Palestinians. With the Democrats Netanyahu was on a leash, with Trump the leash is off. They are screwed as are anyone in the US who isn't white and straight. White Supremacists in other western countries are emboldened. Putin and Xi are laughing.

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