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What products are most at risk. What are easiest to replace to reduce risk? Hardest to replace?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Zamboni killswitch being activated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Buying an Olympia for my local rink. We gotta prevent this!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

As a former ice guy in three different provinces...way more Olympiad in use than zambonis these days.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

GPS. The system can be turned off in specific regions (no idea how, it's classified, but they've actually done it so it's not just a wild notion), and portions of the signal are already encrypted such that they're only available to the US military. There would be little stopping them from sending altered signals or just turning it off.

Many missile systems, aircraft and fighting vehicles rely on GPS to function as expected.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

This is a fair take. However, it does presuppose that we would have sufficient missile systems, aircraft, or fighting vehicles that it would matter.

I have a lot of GNSS units that allow you to choose which networks they're receiving (GPS, Glonass, Galileo, etc.). I've never tried to turn off GPS just to see -- might be interesting as an experiment.

[–] P00ptart 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They no longer add in inaccuracies to non-us military GPS units. That ended like 20 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Oh, not inaccuracies. Just portions of the signal only available to the military. The original intent was to limit accuracy, and now it's more to counter spoofing, but it's still there, just upgraded.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Stop selling electricity to them. With luck that causes a cascade failure, or blackouts, in border states and gives them something else to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

iPhones wouldn't be that bad I don't think. Cell/internet infrastructure would be much worse.

American vehicles would be harder to replace. We know Teslas can and have been remotely disabled in places where Tesla didn't want them being used. I'd be surprised if the big three didn't have remote killswitches in their vehicles already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not even a secret. Almost all modern cars do as part of remote service packages. It's what let's you ask them to unlock your car, do remote start via a phone app, or let's the police request a remote shutdown of a stolen car.

[–] Blaster_M 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fix that by disconnecting the cellular antenna in the car and the telematics unit. You may need a bypass harness on some modern cars that "responds" to connectivity pings in the car's canbus, but otherwise you can't kill what's not connected. :3

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Assume any/all networking equipment is backdoored or has an undisclosed zero day usable by the US government.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hah! Half of it is Chinese

[–] slazer2au 6 points 4 days ago

Ah, double the back doors. The vendor ones mandated by the government and the government found backdoors kept secret like Eternal Blue

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Our infrastructure. All our core network switches which are all American companies. Could you imagine if they did this the response around the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sever the submarine cables.

[–] robolemmy 20 points 4 days ago

I think most submarines are cordless nowadays

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The cell phone network might be a day 0 target, but Cell phones would be left mostly untouched, they are easy to track/drone strike. Interference would only happen acutely for IED concerns or cqb operations

GPS/Satellite location would be jammed / disabled

Internet connections would be targeted, sea cables, microwave, etc

Electrical systems would be targeted.

Prioritize:

  • electrical backups
  • clean water backups
  • communication backups (point to point fiber, lasers, microwave)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

cell phone network

Oddly enough, there was a huge push a while back to prevent Huawei being used in the cell phone network as infrastructure, because it gave China a potential espionage route. No one was thinking "kill switch" during this discussion. And no one was considering US tech in this discussion as a risk either.

I wonder what percentage of Canadian cell phone infrastructure is American?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

What about network switches I'm guessing Cisco.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Most of the Huawei stuff got replaced with Nokia stuff, in Western Canada.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In a invasion we don't have to think about software kill switches, each tower can be trivially destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I suppose I was presuming they wanted the infrastructure intact. Probably easier to shut off the power than to destroy the dam. But this all presumes they're acting rationally. Invading Canada isn't rational, so everything else is a question mark too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Cell phone towers are not critical infrastructure, destroying them is just the cost of war.

Hydroelectric dams, nuclear power plants, anything that takes a long time to build, would be spared if the intent is to takeover.

Off the cuff invasion scenario:

  1. Jam all gps
  2. Multistike all air force and anti air installations
  3. Emp over military facilities
  4. Destroy key communication points
  5. Destroy power grid
  6. Mine all major roads (cluster mines from the air)
  7. Secure /disable nuclear assets

Cut the population off so they can't organize, destroy the military, secure critical assets. Since most of the CA population lives within 100km of the boarder the only real pernicious worry will be submarines deployed and further afield military posts in the north.