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Hashtags do not replace groups.

No one moderates them. They’re easy to hijack and spam. And there’s simply no permanence to them.

Which is why, if you actually want to discuss something, it’s better to tag a group. For example, if you want to be part of an actual PC gaming community on the Fediverse, it’s better to tag @[email protected] than #pcgaming.

This needs to be common knowledge because people new to the Fediverse do not know about groups. Hell, I’d say people who have had Mastodon accounts for years still don’t know. And that’s a shame.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Also hashtags don't help federation at all, groups/communities will "boost" the post so it federates to all the followers

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Communities are for Lemmy and hashtags are for Mastodon.

They each make sense in their proper context.

[–] atomicpoet 28 points 1 day ago (20 children)

What if I told you that you can use Lemmy with Mastodon right now—and that many people do?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have heard of the opposite. Mastodon users can see and comment on lemmy posts, but i have yet to discover how to view mastodon post from lemmy.

If it is indeed possible can you or anyone elaborate how to?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The mastadon user posting the thing needs to tag the Lemmy community in their post and then it will show up like any other post on Lemmy. You wouldn't even know it's from Mastodon unless they said so in the post.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

You can usually tell it's from Mastodon because it's got a couple dozen hashtags scattered throughout the post and a dozen more users and communities tagged.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You have misread their comment and understood it backwards. AP's saying people on Mastodon are engaging in Lemmy discussions.

There is no way to follow Mastodon users from Lemmy. Lemmy simply does not work that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

It's not that Lemmy couldn't allow you to follow Mastodon users, the technology allows it. It's just not high on the priority list to actually develop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Hrmmm... at a (strong) guess, PieFed does. You can follow anything, like a community, post, comment (even ones you do not own), or a user account. You would get Notifications triggered every time they post something, I believe. Including comments as well as posts, but again just a guess.

It's a great way to follow a low-volume something or other! At higher volumes... it can get a bit much, but at least the tools are available, and you can always wipe all Notifications at once if need be.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really hope there's better handling of Mastodon user comments on Lemmy, because all the comments tagging other users are an absolute mess. Are Mastodon users doing this on purpose or is their client tagging the users automatically?

If this were to become more common I'd probably just think about find out a way to block Mastodon users so I don't see their comments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

In Mastodon you need to mention the person you reply to or they won't get mentioned. Clients usually set them automatically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] I think mastodon should implement a post-to-community type thing like mbin has for microblog posts. It (and all other fedi. platforms, really) also needs like a tutorial or smth to show how to actually use the federation features of the platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago
[–] ElectroVagrant 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The tricky part is, the group-supporting fediverse software and the microblogging software need to improve how they interact for this to be as good as it could be.

Right now Mastodon barely supports group users/actors/accounts, however they're called, translating stuff from Lemmy's format in a rather clunky way. Meanwhile Lemmy also has to roughly translate Mastodon's format to its own, working pretty well all things considering, but leaving clear artifacts (subject line/first line repeating, community mention remaining shown, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

sharkey seems to have good lemmy support

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] With time, that stuff will be ironed out. Group support is in Mastodon’s road map. Now Mastodon develops very slowly, so take that with a grain of salt. But the point is that groups are coming to Mastodon… eventually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does it show up in Lemmy if someone on Mastodon tags a Lemmy instance? Just curious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it's a new post in the community

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So if there's 50,000 users in a conversation and they all keep "tagging" the community instead of a hashtag, then that community would have thousands of new posts?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why yikes? The scenario you described is literally the same as 50,000 users signing up to Lemmy to post in a Lemmy Community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In that scenario there would be one post with everyone commenting on it. What I think we're saying here is that it would create a new post every time a mastodon user would "join t conversation" by tagging the community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Oh right. No, it doesn't work that way in my experience. I've seen Mastodon users post to Lemmy Communities by @ mentioning them, and Mastodon users replying to posts. It often looks weird because replies have an @ mention (or multiple, in the case of replies to replies), but everything shows up in Lemmy how you'd want it to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

I'm assuming replies to the post would be replies in Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I’m all for it as long as people know that posting on something like mastodon and tagging a lemmy community will then make a post in that community. Could make for great discussions, but could also lead to a lot of posts/spam in the communities.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (13 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse TBH I think a lot of people (including me) have a very sketchy idea of how the different bits of the Fediverse link together... I'm still a bit vague about how my #Mastodon and #Pixelfed accounts could work better together.

There's a lot of *assumed knowledge* about the #Fediverse ... and people don't want to ask 'stupid' questions because they don't want to 'look stupid'. There needs to be easily accessible and explicit step by step instructions *to get people started*.

Where could I find a group about #ux or #humancentredesign for example? Or #photography ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (11 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] The best way to explain #Pixelfed is that it’s an Instagram-like front-end for the Fediverse. But practically speaking, it’s Mastodon if pictures were a requirement on Mastodon. You interact with a Pixelfed account from Mastodon in much the same way you interact with another Mastodon account, or how you’re interacting with my Akkoma account right now. It really is just like email.

Regarding group topics, the best way to find them is to do a search on a place like lemmy.world or lemmy.ca. For example, [email protected] is one. And you can find the URL here:

https://programming.dev/c/uiux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

The best way to find groups is actually https://lemmyverse.net/communities . All individual servers are missing other communities due to de-feds or lack of federation. While I can't say numerically how comprehensive Lemmyverse is, it's a lot better than any instance I've tried.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse Wait.. is *that* how it works to follow a lemmy .. whatever the equivalent is of a subreddit .. group? anyway, you just follow @groupname@instancename? How did I not understand this before?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@LibertyForward1 @fediverse Not only can you follow, you can post to a Lemmy community from Mastodon by mentioning the Lemmy community. In fact, you just mentioned a Lemmy community, so your using Lemmy right now—but from you’re perspective, it looks like Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Hello from Lemmy, I can see you. Can you see me?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

New lemmy's instance here. Hello.
I come on your topic to test. Might as well enjoy of your topic.

[–] geogeogeo 2 points 1 day ago

This is what I see from Lemmy.world

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