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Keith Kellogg tells countries to offer concrete solutions and boost spending instead of complaining about talks role

Archived version: https://archive.is/20250215152616/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/15/europe-will-not-take-part-in-us-russia-talks-ukraine-kellogg


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[–] themeatbridge 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't sound like Ukraine will be included, either.

[–] Makeitstop 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] marcos 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, peace will last for long enough for Russia to get new weapons.

[–] Remember_the_tooth 3 points 4 days ago

Also, graveyards are peaceful.

[–] NatakuNox 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think the US gets to decide who's in the negotiations

[–] Remember_the_tooth 2 points 4 days ago

[Laughs in interventionalism]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fucking over Ukraine by cutting off support and pretending that Russia's invasion has any legitimacy whatsoever means that without Europe's involvement there won't be Ukraine–Russia talks, but rather Trump having a wet dream has he sees Russia follow in Israel's stead by annexing Ukrainian territory, stealing its natural resources, and ethnically cleansing its population, much as Trump would do to Canada too if he could.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

The transatlantic charade crumbles, as expected. Kellogg's blunt dismissal of Europe's role in peace talks lays bare the infantilization of a continent that outsourced its security to whims across the Atlantic. Zelenskyy's plea for a European army rings hollow—decades of NATO complacency and defense freeloading can't be undone with a speech. Macron scrambles to convene summits, but Paris meetings are just theater for bureaucrats clutching their pensions.

Washington's resource grab is the real headline. Trump's envoys dangle security guarantees while eyeing Ukraine's rare earth minerals—half a trillion in loot for the empire's protection racket. Europe watches, irrelevant, as the "allies" carve up the buffet. Sovereignty's just a word traded between superpowers. Kyiv knows the drill: bend or break. The old order's corpse still twitches, but the vultures have already landed.