Reminds me of the great anecdote: After the casting of Patrick Stewart, someone said to Gene Roddenberry, 'By the 24th century, won't they have cured baldness?’
Roddenberry replied, 'By the 24th century, they won't care'.
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Curing a disability at birth is not eugenics. Wtf?
The Eugenics Wars happened with a bunch of genetically modified super soldiers that were created through selective breeding. The term 'Eugenics' often just gets used as short hand within the Trek universe for all types of Genetic Modification in general as genetic modification is illegal in the Federation.
Aye, I was just having this discussion the other day. Star Trek is humanist, not transhumanist.
There is a minor arc with Bashir in the later half of DS9 where it comes out that he's been genetically altered as a child to become smarter. It gets a lot into the ethics of changing someone who couldn't consent to being altered and also deals with others who didn't have as successful of a modification.
if it's not life-threatening it can easily turn into eugenics. if my autism was deleted at birth, I wouldn't have consented to that procedure
I would have. In a heartbeat.
Wouldn't it technically be if they are genetic disorders? To fix it you'd have to be doing some degree of intentional directing of human genes.
I suppose. I honestly wasn't even thinking of gene therapy. Not all cures for disabilities would necessarily require gene therapy.
Wait a sec, what was Tilly’s disability? I can’t remember, I just thought she had a bit of a shit upbringing with her mum.
Also, don’t think I’d bring up Julian against ableists in this argument 🙄
I would imagine they are referring to her being neurodivergent. Think it was a single line in the first or second episode (when her and the main character are introduced as roommates). Easy to miss for sure.
Depends on your definition of 'disability', but I guess they meant because she's visibly overweight, but that doesn't mean she can't be in Starfleet.
Idiot: well why can't they just alter genes to do away with disabilities?
Me remembering the group of genetically modified individuals who came out with more neurological problems: they have several episodes on why you can't do that
they have several episodes on why you ~~can't~~ shouldn't do that
Fixed that for you.
one thing that tech bros forget to take into account is that disability is simply part of being human. if we truly wanted to eliminate disability from the human condition we'd have to eradicate humanity –Terminator style–.
why do you ask? because disability is inevitable once you age. aging is part of becoming disabled. accidents are acts of fate that can render you disabled at any moment. can you eliminate bad luck from the universe? I know Elon supporters would love to claim otherwise, alas, you cannot.
this is similar to the weirdos that only adopt able-bodied babies and dump them once an accident happens or they discover they were disabled all along but passed the eugenics screening process. the conclusion is, if you can't love your child regardless of health status then you don't really love them.