this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2025
70 points (96.1% liked)

Fediverse

29858 readers
387 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!

Rules

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

It makes it easier to understand what this is and that they are interconnected, but I think I enjoy unique branding/themes more in practice now that I am actually using the fediverse.

top 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] plcplc 3 points 1 day ago

It took me embarrasingly long to get a feeling for how Mastodon was supposed to work across instances, and what it means that lemmy, madtodon etc are part of the Fediverse.

I think the "join mastodon" or "join lemmy" rhetoric just obscures how things work. IMO it would be better to describe Lemmy and Mastodon as ActivityPub readers, similar to how there used to be RSS readers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

My kneejerk reaction coming from the '90s is that if I wanted the same branding for everything, I'd just use Apple or Gnome. At the same time, constructing brand image on top of a third-party base that is in development and can change over time can be difficult, or just "not worth the $RESOURCE". So I'm currently in the position that something like "universal Mastodon view with brand accents" would be the most fitting thing for the Fediverse.

[–] singletona 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I do think there does need to be an amount of consistancy in branding so it's more apparent that these things can talk to eachother.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Something like many Reddit subs do with the snoo, where they took a common, recognizable icon and customized it for their instance would have worked well if there was a similar icon for instances to latch onto, but we're past that point now.

[–] Cris_Color 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean there's the Lemmy mouse mascot guy, but yeah instances are already pretty established

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Color 3 points 3 days ago

It is, and somehow that escaped me... 😅

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some sort of icon/logo representing the fediverse on every site could be useful, or maybe different symbols for microblogging, threadiverse, etc. and the site includes what it has at the top or bottom somewhere, prob too late for that

[–] Scio 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For a while I was seeing people use the asterism symbol (⁂) around my Mastodon feed. Wonder what happened to that movement.

[–] Cris_Color 2 points 3 days ago

Oh neat, I'd never seen that before

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. I think it works to hide the distributed nature of the fediverse, and works to make things that are inherent to a distributed model seem uncanney and broken.

It also strips some value out of the 'local' experience, communicating that each Mastodon-based website is the same as any other, and presenting something that looks like a dumb terminal, rather than a stand-alone website.

Ultimately, I think it's bad for the fediverse.

[–] roguetrick 2 points 2 days ago

Actually one of the reasons I like misskey derivatives and their diversity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I like the different instances having their own branding but i like the option to switch back to the normal theme. I also like when users put their own spin on the services logo instead of using something unrelated.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Having the OPTION is great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I like what we have here on Lemmy with the multiple different frontends.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think the sane approach is: the developers offer one good theme and branding that is the default setting and works well out of the box. And instance administrators can then either be lazy and leave that in place, or (better) go ahead and tweak their place to their liking. Decorate it, make it unique if they like. I think it shows how much effort someone put into something. But on the other hand, you often can't mess with 20 different free software projects and change the CSS code just for the sake of it. I think it's also fine to just leave some things on a good default setting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

They specifically make it harder to change that logo tho, its on purpose, its not in the ui settings by design, wouldn't be hard to implement (every other image can be changed from admin settings)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I like that about pleroma, can't seem to login to any mastodon apps with it tho, thought it worked with that api, at least the web interface has tons of customizability

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the "consistent branding" is only really there on major instances. you can use custom themes (like Tangerine) or front-ends (like Mangan) as the default experience on your instance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

tangerine link doesn't work but thats cool haven't heard of mangan

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. I think there should be sane defaults, and whoever deviates from them should know why they're doing it.

[–] tired_n_bored 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I like consistent branding because non-technical people get confused when they have one billion different names for everything when you could just say "join a Mastodon instance"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

@tired_n_bored they don’t need to know it’s a mastodon instance tbh

[–] tired_n_bored 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But people are used to one and only Twitter. If we create one billion different brands for the same Mastodon instances nobody is gonna hop on them cause they will understand even less than what they understand now about Mastodon and the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

@tired_n_bored I don’t rly know, we need people to learn how to use fediverse, not mastodon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

On theming, akin to Linux, I don't think there's much room for breakthroughs, or at least they'd be harder to achieve, being more a case of picking the "flavor" you want instead. Furthermore, I think this applies to UI as a whole in social medias, federated ones included.

Now, one thing that annoys me and I think that falls on branding is how most of the federated platforms don't have proper names. As I follow communities and people primarily by RSS, I like things to be organized, and having to figure out how to fit "names" like kbin.social (RIP), lemm.ee, feddit.uk and the sort is a bit of a migraine. "<.<