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[–] surph_ninja 2 points 33 minutes ago

What are fuel costs at? I imagine the US destroying the Nord stream pipeline hit prices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

EINE STADT, EINE STATION,

EINE KOMMENTARSEKTION!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Gut. Jetzt mehr investieren.

Wir haben genug Finanzen.

[–] Jumi 1 points 2 hours ago

Aber denke doch jemand an die Schuldenbremse....

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Germans better not vote right-wing or "Christian" again, otherwise they can say bye bye to public transportation funding for the next 4 years.

[–] surph_ninja 1 points 34 minutes ago

The Nazis are already back in power, and this time they were smart enough to distribute their people among multiple parties. Even the highest ranking Green Party member was enthusiastically defending the genocide in Palestine, and pushing against calls for restraint against children.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I wish that too. Sadly the people are stupid. Over 16 years of doing nothing, corruption and stopping investments into the country, have already been forgotten because now with the last government of SPD and Greens that wanted to reform and invest, and the everything blocking FDP, the effect of that mismanagement are shown and they are being blamed for. Not the once at fault...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Progressives need better social media managers and to not be above playing dirty. They should be spamming their ideologies over all social media, being loud about mistakes the others made, being low-brow and making memes, phrases and shit that even monkeys on the right can understand. Give the media something to talk about - all publicity is good publicity. The nazis and right-wingers learned it, when will the progressives?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

The greens also need to grow a pair. Bring threw what they stand for and yell it from the roof tops! Not what they have always been doing, being so passiv and only feel good words

[–] JubilantJaguar 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but we are also going to have to compromise on issues where a big part of the electorate does not hold doctrinaire progressive values (in Europe this means one thing: immigration). It won't be enough to spam the "stupid" voters with low-brow memes and make fun of "nazis" and hope that non-progressives suddenly become enlightened and see that their values are wrong. There will have to be substantive concessions on policy. Even "stupid" voters know when they're being manipulated.

[–] Katana314 1 points 1 hour ago

The big thing to me is helping the “opposition” (that I put in quotes) clarify their values. Many of them say they oppose illegal immigration to get violent criminals out of America. (Many others are racists) We can focus on details that show Republicans don’t care about violent offenders, ignoring them to focus on nonviolent immigrants, and that Democratic organization successfully removes them.

A big point in favor of this is showcasing how many people were deported under Obama. It was more than Trump! The reason it’s not highlighted because it was “business as usual” going after violent offenders, not to mention scaling down operations from prior admins, and because the organization didn’t receive direct interference to make big shows of hurting innocent people.

People can get more done, more effectively, when their boss isn’t trying to make news headlines about it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

It sounds like all of the problems they've faced are matters of fiscal priority. By contrast, how much money was spent on car infrastructure that ultimately has still not fixed traffic? I'm betting that number is higher.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago

The German government is subsidising having a fancy car as an employment bonus (Dienstwagenprivileg).

It's not technically supposed to be about having a fancy car (i.e. an SUV), but that's what it's often subsidising in practice

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

At leats for Hamburg the plan was to invest 3.2billion into transport infrastructure from 2023-2026 of which 126million€ goest into roads for cars. That is a bit more then half they put into pedestrian and cycling infrastructure and absolutly dwarved by the extension of metro, regional rail and other public transport costs.

That being said that is the city and the federal government is covering up a long stretch of highway in Hamburg, which is extremely expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

That's based of Hamburg as far as explicit costs go, but there's also implicit costs. I don't know Hamburg, I've never been there, but I'll make an assumption that it's like every other big city with urban parking and ICE cars stuck in traffic every morning, bellowing fumes out for everyone to breathe.

It is my argument that for every dollar you don't explicitly spend on car infrastructure, you'll get it back tenfold in implicit costs being alleviated elsewhere, especially in the physical- and mental healthcare sectors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know Hamburg, I've never been there, but I'll make an assumption that it's like every other big city with urban parking and ICE cars stuck in traffic every morning, bellowing fumes out for everyone to breathe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Thanks I'll never visit Hamburg

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

In the olden days Hamburgs city planners really thought cyclists were awesome. Like awesome enough to jump over a fully grown tree on the cycling path. Also it is the largest city in the EU without a tram system.....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Spending twice as much money on walking and cycling infrastructure as on car infrastructure isn't too bad, especially when you consider that roads for cars cost 20x more per km than roads for bikes. Hamburg for sure isn't a paradise for cyclists, and they still build a fair share of stupid infrastructure, but it's already gotten a lot better than 10 or 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

I love the Berlin transit system. I know I've never relied upon it for daily work yet (the longest I stayed was one month), but it's been so very convenient to get around the city. Normally it's so easy and quick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Per capita, or?..