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[–] LovableSidekick 2 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Something tells me the aliens would be smart enough to ask questions like, "How do the factories get here to begin with?"

Even though I lean heavily toward socialism and believe an open source society is our future, we've got to move beyond memes and kindergarten oversimplifications of capitalism. Every industry and business empire ultimately starts with clever individuals working very hard on ideas that turn out to be better in some way than what's already around, so they can grow and grow to become giant corporations. Over the course of time a lot of people get involved who don't work any harder than a normal person but are just paid a lot more, and others simply inherit the money. Those are really ones everybody gets upset at,. The innovators and entrepreneurs deserve recognition and reward, we just have to find a way to do that without creating oligarchs and vast blocks of wealth.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago

I love the reference to Futurama.

Why does Ross, the largest friend, not simply eat the other five?

However, yes. Capitalism is fucked up that rewards those with the most resources.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

It's far worse than this:

See how these supply and demand lines intersect over here? Well we get to shift the supply a little lower, sell for higher price, and get to extort workers harder, so that they feel lucky to have a job at all.

The reason that the large class doesn't eat us, is that we have enough profits to control media and politicians to brainwash and force them not to eat us, and so when we say "free market", we're just lying to create a corrupt market and a corrupt society which we get to control absolutely.

--Ahhh says the alien.

Do you have any intrinsic concerns about being evil? Or does the only thing that matters is that the slaves accept your evil and their oppression?

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 3 hours ago

Ironically, the Aliens would be woefully unequiped to deal with organized groups of humans acting for the interests of wealthy groups to enter the alien facilities and using them as they see fit, since the aliens apparently don't have distinction of ownership of their own facilities.

If the Aliens proselytize to a collective that puts their own interests first they lessen themselves and many might empathize with the humans instead.

They would then devolve into political tribalism not unlike the ones on earth.

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