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Latest / impending Reddit bumble + Why to expect influx from Reddit? (infosec.pub)
submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/outoftheloop
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I've heard Reddit is setting themselves up for another major fumble and that it relates to how much Spez is a fanboy of Elon Musk.

I can't find any details on the drama playing out though. Can someone explain the details of what's going on?

I would love to see Lemmy grow with another big "Rexxit" event, but I'm not seeing anything happening to cause one.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Anecdotal, but reddit is REALLY cracking down on users regarding the protests related to the US/North America tariffs. There is a very murky line as to what reddit corporate wants people to say and not say regarding the protests people are organizing on corporate owned social media because sure.

Same with the inevitable pushback against blocking twitter.

That said: I sincerely doubt it will go anywhere. It took YEARS for people to leave twitter and that was only because a different corporate owned social media, bluesky, had open sign-ups. There is no alternative to reddit.

So we might see a small burst of newbies on lemmy. They'll likely get driven away by the usual suspects.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's no alternative to Reddit? Wh... What am I using right now? Am I hallucinating?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yes. This is all a fever dream!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like I said. It took years for people to leave twitter and it was only because bluesky had open sign-ups.

They don't want the fediverse. They want giant corporate sites that make things "easy" and involve no thought.

So no, lemmy is not an alternative to the vast majority of reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not that smart and Lemmy is pretty easy. The problem is it's federated and I did have to hop servers once and most people really don't want to bother with that added complexity.

But give it time. Mastodon was small for years and never grew quickly, but because it's federated, it is not going away.

[–] Stern 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same with the inevitable pushback against blocking twitter.

If it gets big on the media reddit admins might force things, but prob not. I have a buddy who mods one of the subs that banned twitter links and he said admins were backing mods there.

There is no alternative to reddit.

There was no alternative to digg... until reddit. Any big site can fall off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reddit was there before digg 2.0 I frequented both for a at least a few years. Im old so my memory is fragile but it feels like it was more than a year at least

[–] Stern 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

reddit that early on had no subreddits, no comment section, and was creating ghost accounts to give the illusion of activity. By Digg v4 it was much more fleshed out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Somewhat true depending on when you migrated i guess. The diggbar was when i left, and when v4 made the masses move there was already high signal to noise on reddit. That can not be said about this place.

Edit: when i made the move I moved to something different than digg. This is just poor mans reddit clone. This is not where the most insightful people are, and the up/downvotes are driven by how popular an idea/answer is rather than if it brings some insight to the table.

Just my thoughts though, and i still browse reddit with RES for memes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it gets big on the media reddit admins might force things, but prob not. I have a buddy who mods one of the subs that banned twitter links and he said admins were backing mods there.

Reddit is not your friend (or your friend's friend) and they are happy for a way to increase engagement up until they get told by the government that they need to let twitter back in.

Reddit Corporate is not going to fight for your rights.

There was no alternative to digg… until reddit. Any big site can fall off.

And do you know why digg died more or less overnight? Because there was an alternative.

We don't have that alternative. So... that is why I referenced twitter which was a 2020s problem event rather than digg which was late 2000s.

[–] Stern 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

they are happy for a way to increase engagement up until they get told by the government that they need to let twitter back in.

What is the fed going to tell them, specifically? Now if Elon talks to spez and whispers sweet nothings in his ears as billionaire to billionaire glazer, I could see something happening there, but from the government itself? No chance.

And do you know why digg died more or less overnight? Because there was an alternative.

It died because there was an alternative AND digg shit the bed with v4. If just being a alternative was enough we'd be on voat or tildes right now, which came well before Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Voat went to hell when FPH, punchable faces, and similar subs were banned under I think Ellen Pao, and it turned into a toxic hateful shit show really quickly.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 5 points 1 week ago

Instantly. And it wasn't, like, great before that.

[–] Stern 1 points 1 week ago

Punchable faces never got banned, it got took over by shitposters though lol

[–] homesweethomeMrL 4 points 1 week ago

we'd be on voat

Voat! HAHAhahahahahahaha . . . ahhhhhhh fuck. Too funny.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is the fed going to tell them, specifically

musk IS "the fed" at this point. Pay attention

It died because there was an alternative AND digg shit the bed with v4. If just being a alternative was enough we’d be on voat or tildes right now, which came well before Lemmy.

Yes. it is almost like we need both. And there is still no alternative.

[–] Stern 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

musk IS “the fed” at this point. Pay attention

And FEDERALLY he has no leg to stand on. Are you intentionally missing my point here? He wouldn't be asking FEDERALLY. He would be asking PERSONALLY, because Spez glazes him. The FED has no rule of law they can use to force a site to link to another.

Yes. it is almost like we need both. And there is still no alternative.

They say in the comment section of a post on a alternative. C'mon, you're just being contrarian at this point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And FEDERALLY he has no leg to stand on. Are you intentionally missing my point here? He wouldn’t be asking FEDERALLY. He would be asking PERSONALLY, because Spez glazes him. The FED has no rule of law they can use to force a site to link to another.

Tell that to USAID or all the other orgs he is gutting.

They say in the comment section of a post on a alternative. C’mon, you’re just being contrarian at this point.

Again, lemmy is not an option any more than mastodon was an option for twitter. For many reasons, people only want to go to large "simple" corporate owned websites.

Maybe you should actually educate yourself on a topic before you comment on it, hmm?

[–] Stern 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tell that to USAID or all the other orgs he is gutting.

Okay, you're just trolling at this point if you think reddit is a government agency somehow. Not even gonna bother further with you. Blocked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just in the interest of anyone who thinks this person had even the slightest argument:

To summarize. musk is not the de jure "fed". he is very demonstrably de facto. But hey, apparently reddit loves everyone enough that they are going to fight a federal government that has made it clear they don't give a shit about any actual laws or constitutionality.

Oy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Considering the humiliating displays of fealty from meta (overtly manipulating search and firing factcheckers) and tik tok (grovelling public announcement) it's not hard to imagine there's some serious threats against any site operator that doesn't bend the knee.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Again, lemmy is not an option any more than mastodon was an option for twitter. For many reasons, people only want to go to large "simple" corporate owned websites.

Do they? Well, they're morons then. I prefer a user base that can navigate the dangerous world of an unfamiliar interface.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Honestly? Same

But that is why lemmy and mastodon aren't alternatives. it sucks but... yeah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

There is a very murky line as to what reddit corporate wants people to say

The fact that this is being said in earnest... Fedi4life

[–] rustyfish 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think there won’t be any kind of gigantic wave of users swapping over to the Fediverse. Rather small groups of people gradually become more and more frustrated with reddit.

If you look at twitter, people love to cry about the platform they are on. It took a lot for them to finally leave it and even then many didn’t burn their bridges. Consequences are somehow anathema to some people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Before anyone is mass migrating here there will be rather another centralised commercial site popping up. Just like with Bluesky instead of Mastodon when people got finally fed up with Xitter.

Fediverse and its applications are too niche for that. Personally, who cares, we do have a decent amount of people here already. Plus we have our own drama too. I am not sure this place would change for the better with the masses coming over from Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Freedom enjoyers will find their way... There can't be 50k of us in the entire social media economy system...

Right?!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

We have already been seeing an increase in new legitimate users joining these past few days. Is this happening to any other instances?

[–] roofuskit 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would not love to see the dregs that are left on Reddit come here. Once in a while I'll take a look around over there and it makes me glad I left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey! What have you got against us dregs?

[–] roofuskit 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The tone there has grown increasingly toxic. Not looking to transplant that here.

[–] nobleshift 2 points 1 week ago

Block early and often, that's my motto.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Im not wild about the internet at large being here but would love to get more of the tech savy to move over. NERDS!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m gonan sound super elitist but it’s kind of nice that lemmy is mostly filled with nerds or people who enjoy learning about things and being very informed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I was in college in the early nineties and I feel its a lot like early alt newsgroups before aol was a thing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 2 points 1 week ago

Ah hey now, let's keep the name-calling to a minimum, or else there's the flaming and the biting and the HOYglavin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I was on Maatodon never twitter.

I used Reddit for a time but left long aho, found Lemny about 12 mths ago. I think it's awesone.

My gripe is with commercialisation of the intrenet, I'm of an age (old) that it offered the promise of a chocolate cake and delivered us a turd burger. Much of the reason for that is lock in on commerilsed scum baggery. I don't blame the shit balls like Musk, Spez or Zuck for that (if it wasnt them it would be sone other shit stain) , I blame the 80% of users for normalising it all.

Susan Sontag was asked what she had learned from the Holocaust, and she said that 10% of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10% is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80% could be moved in either direction” —Kurt Vonnegut