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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

At its best it would be the most well functioning democracy possible, at its worst it would give way into centralisation (and infighting)

I don't think anarchist states are impossible, but I do think it wouldn't be as comfortable of a life compared to something more centralised.

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[–] MolecularCactus1324 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don’t think practically you could end up with a state of anarchism because it implies that humans can exist in a power vacuum. Something will always fill that vacuum. Now, the question is what is that thing? It can take a lot of forms. The goal should be to make it serve the qualitative needs of most people - food, shelter, well being, safety. People advocating for true anarchy are usually doing so from a naive idealism. Idealism is often good, but sometimes ignores other factors that make the ideal impossible to achieve.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think it's one gun away from a dictatorship.

For power to be safely devolved to the people there need to be resilient structures in place to prevent a bad actor from simply wresting control by force.

Also, I think that while it solves societal issues well for the most personal of personal liberties it fails to properly add in protections from the liberties of others that may be imposed on you... i.e. a spouse trying to escape an abusive relationship will find sparse services to support them.

Lastly, I like trains. Trains don't happen in a reasonable time-frame without a strong centralized government. In the UK a coop recently opened a new train line... I think it took them 30+ years.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Responsible anarchism is a good ideal to aim for, but in pure form it's utopian. Realistic way to get closer to this ideal is shifting to stateless/borderless societies that center around some alternative entities other than geopolitical nation-states.

[–] frankenswine 9 points 1 day ago

coupled with communism it's the real shit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I think it's great. We should fucking try it.

Seriously, though, I think it would be nice but it's going to be impossible unless you can fully get rid of greedy, corrupt, power hungry pieces of shit with zero empathy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Don't forget the morons who keep worshipping said pieces of shit. Even now, I run into Musk cultists regularly.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I see it as a guideline for how society could be structured after the elimination of class.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I consider myself an anarcho-pragmatist. It would be nice not to have any rulers or an hierarchy. But I also know people well enough to know that unless we defer any decision making to a supercomputer everyone trusts, we're going to need some form of societal structure.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Honestly, I don't really understand what it is. I don't understand socialism, communism, hell I hardly understand capitalism and I'm living in it.

I know the "it's chaos" interpretation isn't really correct though

[–] Glifted 3 points 1 day ago

Nestor Makhno and his Makhnovists weren't perfect but I think its probably the closest we're going to get to seeing a working anarchist society. It seemed like it worked for a short time.

Also note the mutial aid systems that spring up in the wake of some disasters could probably be considered temporary anarchist societies. Rebecca Solenit wrote a book about this but I haven't gotten a chance to read it yet. A Paradise Built in Hell. I hear its good but I can't say that with firsthand knowledge

[–] pepperprepper 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are already people living this lifestyle, unfortunately one only has the choice if you have lots of money.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

I thought it was quite cool when I was a teenager. Then I grew up.

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