I don't know. I don't want to play apologetics for the tankies, but showing up in a tankie community and telling them that they're supporting fascism just sounds like trolling to me. You know what you're doing, and them taking the bait isn't power tripping.
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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I disagree, if no specific term is violated, a mod just removing inconvenient posts is being a petty tyrant. This is why I block .world, for all the complaints about the CCP worshippers on .ml, they don't engage in the authoritarianism DNC worshippers do on .world, I can say their party doesn't allow elections and supports genocide and they post back to me 34 pages of agitprop instead of blocking me, which is BETTER.
[edit: blahaj is as bad as .world]
YDI. That statement is overbroad, and the mods were right to hand out a ban for baiting people into an argument, especially since Tankies ≠ Anarchists in the first place.
Also, your conclusion is a non sequitur.
That doesn't track anyway, the china helping trump get elected part.
If china wanted trump then they are fucking stupid from their own standpoint. Orange man hates them and is slapping them with tariffs, and china's biggest trade partner is us.
Unless there's some 5d chess explantation, I'm going with that doesn't pass the sniff test.
But there's another prominent evil dictator who trump is besties with who absolutely does interfere in our elections that might deserve the accusation
I'm not american nor do i keep tabs much. How did the CCP help trump get the presidency?
YDI
While all Nazis may be fascists, not all fascists are Nazis specifically. So it's incorrect use of language, i.e. at least misinfo if not delivered with intent to mislead that would be disinfo.
While there is a great deal of similarity between the Alt-Left tankies and the Alt-Right MAGATs, that doesn't mean that tankies are actual Nazis, just that they support them with such misleading rhetoric as BoTh SiDeS sAmE.
So this is definitely flamebait. You weren't trying to convince anyone of anything, just venting your frustrations at the world. People will be more receptive if you consider that their consent to receive messages should matter as well.
A better term is "Red Fascist". They're not fascists by definition, but supporting totalitarianism and state capitalism (which isn't even that left lol) and supporting genocide, and purges of people who follow different ideologies than them such as anarchists sounds pretty familiar...
Can't forget the cult of personality.
But aren't our particular brand of them here on Lemmy straight-up "tankies" as well? As in they literally, not even merely figuratively, deny that anyone died in the Tiananmen Square massacre?
Or rather than say that tankie is not accurate, do you mean that it is more inclusive?
I meant both, they're tankies and red fascists. Not all leftism is of course but there's something deeply ironic supporting a violent and authoritarian ideology while claiming to care about the workers.
Textbook example of flamebait and disinfo leads to textbook example of YDI
Troll.
Attacking tankies in an anarchist (anti-tankie) sub with a wacky (racist) conspiracy about (not anarchist) china supporting nazis?
Worth banning.
(racist)
Tbf, they said "CCP", not "Chinese"
Is the racism in the room with us right now, dear?
They/OP won't stop replying to people pointing out they are the asshole. So yes it is sadly
how is being an "asshole" is racist?
that accusation gets thrown around way to lightly
I'm saying the racist is the op who is also an asshole.
Go though their history and it's pretty clear they are one
How is that racist?
Communist party and nazi party are not races lol
I think you missed the context where they said that the "racist" aspect was based on OP's overall comment history, not this post or comments within in particular.
Mate they think everyone is out it get the usa simply because they aren't American.
Equating the CCP with Chinese is the same thing Zionists do to call people antisemitic by equating the Israeli government with Jews.
The nazis in the white house = Trump? CCP did not elect him.
CCP isn't tankie. They don't celebrate what happened 35 years ago, much less had a need to do the same recently.