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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

    I remember when graphics cards were for, you know, graphics.

    Anyway, go team red.

    [–] Dickarus 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Do any of you even trade?????? Zoom the fuck out.

    [–] ikidd 31 points 1 day ago

    Yah, this doesn't show the crazy ramp up over the last 3 years, including splits.

    [–] aleq 47 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Kinda seems like a huge mistake to devaluate nvidia because of deepseek. Deepseek has proven that LLMs can be run much more cheaply than previously thought, the nvidia cards can now do much more than previously thought possible. What am I missing?

    [–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago

    Nvidia's valuation was based on the premise that OpenAI was going to be spending seven trillion dollars on infrastructure, most of which would go to Nvidia, because it was impossible to make the ultimate mediocrity machine without that level of investment.

    Furthermore, the DeepSeek team claims they did this on relatively old GPUs, the kind that there are already tens of thousands of shipping containers worth of in crypto and llm farms today, that everybody was expecting to need to turn over every 18 months.

    [–] ikidd 23 points 1 day ago

    The part you're missing is the complete lack of rationality in the near term stock market.

    [–] eager_eagle 50 points 1 day ago

    DeepSeek was built using older chips, but NVDA was priced on the premise that newer chips were almost a requirement for anyone seriously investing in machine learning.

    Another factor was the open-sourcing of DeepSeek, which makes larger hardware investments harder to justify. Nvidia will continue selling, this is just a momentary stock price correction.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

    The thing is Nvidia hardware is in such high demand it won't really matter. There is way more demand than there is manufacturing capacity.

    [–] taiyang 4 points 1 day ago

    To add, there's movement in the government to subsidize AI with giant GPU farms (with their own power source, et.). Of course, I am pretty sure they'll go with it anyway despite it being overkill.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

    The thing is Nvidia hardware is in such high demand it won't really matter. There is way more demand than there is manufacturing capacity.

    [–] eager_eagle 36 points 1 day ago

    it's still too high, it can fall much, much more

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I would be all for this if I didn't run into a couple thousand dollars and threw it into nvidia for the purpose of hoping I'd be able to retire one day

    [–] taiyang 9 points 1 day ago

    It's tied to a fair number of retirement accounts so your not alone, and things like this usually even out long term. That said, diversify your investments going forward in case a company folds or is sold off to Elon Musk, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago
    [–] taiyang 3 points 1 day ago

    This image makes me smile. I'll just stick to indie stocks, tyvm.