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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's a good article, but the title is misleading.

The FBI paid a company to find a few people's locations, and they were under the impression that the company would use in-house software, not NSO spyware.

At no point did the FBI use NSO spyware. Riva Networks did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can argue its misleading but I disagree. Outsourcing bad behavior to a third party doesn't remove culpability on your part. This is all to common these days and allows both parties to point fingers at each other while nobody faces any responsibility for breaking the law, violating people's rights, and/or unethical behavior.

The FBI just using assumptions and impressions on methodologies used by the company they contracted with is no excuse when they could have asked how the work was going to be performed. Incompetence is no excuse either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying the FBI should be excused for this. I'm saying the title is factually wrong and is designed to provoke attention

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even with that I think it's debatable. They were employed by the FBI at the time of usage so it isn't totally inaccurate to say it was the FBI doing it and we don't know what knowledge the FBI guys had of the company's methods.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

At no point did the US military torture hostages in those blacksites.

Not sure it matters. The responsibility still lies with the org that paid.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Thats plausible deniablity for you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how many phones are still vulnerable to Pegasus exploits. Scary that it almost everyone has been vulnerable at some point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah... Not to burst your bubble but I don't think security even exists. At least in USA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why should Reddit have something to do with "Security in China"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

iOS now has a "Lockdown Mode" which is supposed to be more secure against pegasus, but can break some functionality, but then again, it's a closed source OS so you'll have to take their word for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago