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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The fact that you place no blame on Netanyahu and the IDF tells me you aren't serious. It's the same "why didn't the Democrats stop this awful thing someone else is doing" Russian propaganda line we've heard for years now. Enough. What happened in Gaza is a war crime committed by Israel's far right government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

With full and unconditional support from the Biden administration. Who sent them the weapons? Who moved aircraft carriers to defend Israel? Who vetoed ceasefire four times at the UN? Who kept saying that their support of Israel is iron clad?

The only country that actively tried to stop the genocide, i.e. Yemen, ended up being bombed by Biden.

Netanyahu won’t be able to fire a shot without US support.

I’m not sure if you are willfully ignorant or lying.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not just Bidens, but the US Government in general as they, for whatever reason, really love Israel.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (25 children)

that reason is colonialism. the thought is that Israel helps us control the oil and intelligence in West Asia. the obvious problem: they don't, actually, because our support of them makes dealing with oil producing countries harder, not easier, and the intelligence they provide us is incredibly faulty on account of being a fascist dictatorship. so that explains the support they get from liberal rubes, but what about the support they get from hardline conservatives? well hardline conservatives like fascism as a system of government so they like israel. that's basically it. oh sure, some of them genuinely think there needs to be a homeland for the jews (nevermind most of our ancestral homelands are in western Ukraine, but these jackasses don't know enough about us to know Ukraine has been consistently a better ally of the jewish people than israel). and some think all jews must return to israel in order for the events of revelations to unfold (never mind that was John the revealer writing about exactly what he was seeing in the year 90 happen to and against the jews and early christians, and the weird language was so he could get around roman censors). for the most part, it's all as simple as "fascists like dealing with fascists because they understand eachother"

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (13 children)

And now you have Trump who wants to force Gaza residents to move to Egypt and similar so Israel can have the land

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I'm glad trump has this new solution that instead of genocide falls under the definition of checks notes genocide

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Doing" vs "not preventing another country from doing" seems to be subtly different.

Tuvalu, for instance, did nothing to prevent the invasion of Ukraine. Damn them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Biden wasn’t a passive observer. He supplied the weapons and the political cover at the UN including vetoing ceasefire four times.

[–] TheMC42 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How many recent US presidents have threatened to stop arms deliveries to Israel? Trump has infact ramped back up where Biden reduced flows of weapons. Trump has proposed ethnic cleansing in Gaza yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I see BlueAnon have been reduced to making up their own reality to cope with the election loss

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Reagan did and he stopped the 1982 invasion of Lebanon calling it a Holocaust. https://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/13/world/reagan-demands-end-to-attacks-in-a-blunt-telephone-call-to-begin.html

When Biden was an enthusiastic supporter of the invasion. https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/

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[–] NatakuNox 13 points 3 days ago (14 children)

People have such little compassion for forging lives in America. Even the "liberals" are still chastising millions of people for choosing to not support any genicidal regime, and not blaming a literal handful of people that knew supporting Israel's genicide would cost them votes. There was no and is no justification for the Democratic party to be pro Isreal. Zionest weren't going to vote blue any ways. So why take a stance that only appeals to only them!? If they really believed Trump was some existential threat to democracy and freedom, (I do believe this and voted blue. Only to watch them throw away millions of votes for no reason!) why didn't they do everything in their power to get every single vote possible? They know that from polling and form left leaning organization that supporting Isreal was a net negative on their chances of winning but told their base to eat rocks or have Trump for president. Whelp. Here we are. This mindset goes for universal health care, free college and college debt forgiveness, wage increase, income inequality, and so much more! But the democrats preferred status quo over actual winning. Dem leadership doesn't care who wins a election because they still get to go home to their ivory towers regardless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The good thing about Trump winning is the establishment Ds have well and truly fucked themselves so that they won't hold the presidency again. They constantly hold the threat of Rs to our throat, well now the worst has come to pass so their threats mean nothing now. It's either listen to the people and change or never have power again.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

This post has gotten out of hand. I have seen everything from genocide apologia to genocide celebration. In the heat of it all, the ban hammer might have been wielded unevenly. If you were banned and believe your ban was unjustified please message me and you will be unbanned.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 8 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Flattening Gaza is one of Biden's accomplishments

Heil Maga. If you have to have to load, or unload, blame the Democrats. You'll love it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Can't solve houselessness in the US, creates more displaced people around the world

[–] Jumi 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's only a reason to keep a presence there, same with South Korea/Taiwan. They don't give a fuck about them or what they do as long as they don't actively harm their interests but they're close to their enemies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seems like a dickish thing to do

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