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Moderator Guidelines
Seems like everything is set
How do people feel about getting [email protected] ? Mods over there don't really seem cooperative, but it's not like it matters that much now?
i dunno y’all, the beef kinda made this house a home for me. plus the longer url gives me some space to stretch out my legs!
i think a shorter url is positive, but moving back over might be a hassle so shrug
Maybe in a few weeks when the community is stable the mods can suggest moving to something like [email protected] and see if the people want to do so.
It is possible to ping all people from a community to ease the migration using a script: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20818346?scrollToComments=true
yeh so far seems like we'll just coexist :3
I'll just vent here quickly because I don't want to create another post on [email protected], but still would like talk about it for a bit.
@[email protected] informed me that I've been banned from [email protected]: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=12093216
Seems like they considered this post (see below) harassment, but it took them a while, as I was still able to post there for a while after posting it: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/search?q=+&type=Comments&listingType=All&communityId=2942&creatorId=12093216&page=1&sort=New
I guess they just don't like criticism.
Still a bit surprised by one of the mods statements
You got everything you wanted.
Well, no, [email protected] still hasn't been transferred to [email protected] mod team. But as we stated in the post we're currently in, it doesn't matter that much.
Here is an updated (so hopefully harassment-free version of the post:)
Ping @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected], thank you for defending my perspective.
yeh I saw that, I dont think ur post was harassment but I do kinda get theyd feel that way with all the hate theyre getting XP I do feel like it was a bit too much posting that on their community, would have made more sense on this community but anyway I think we should stop talking about that now that it seems the drama has mostly ended :3
Seems reasonable, thanks 😄
For the record, I kind of agree with the outcome here. The mods are getting enough pushback and you escalating it to name calling did not advance the wellbeing or outcome for either side.
That's fair.
I was just being really frustrated with that mod not having a local account, and not being recognizing that was an issue. That's basic knowledge that every mod has that you won't get the reports from a non-local account.
When you go through this comment from Ada, it's even more blatant that Ada had to do the heavy lifting on the moderation: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20976989/12493554
People are allowed to make mistakes, to be clueless. But trying to throw Ada and Blahaj under the bus because they didn't just cared enough to create a post on Blahaj meta community just seemed weird to me.
I absolutely knew this was coming. I held onto this comment exchange specifically because I knew they would drop the hammer-
How this is anything other than a threat, when said by someone with authority, I'll never know. As far as whether or not it's harassment, I can't see the one you did link, but if you called them a name, then that's definitely not okay. However, I will add that as a mod, if you get asked a question in public and don't reply to it, you can absolutely expect the commenter to keep asking it. That isn't harassment so much as it's expected human behavior.
Part of being a mod is agreeing to deal with even the most insistent, possibly annoying people. It's not against the rules to be insistent or annoying, so you really need either the patience of a school teacher, or the rigid clenched fist of an authoritarian. My go-to move was, anytime someone annoyed me in such a way that I felt I couldn't answer without overstepping, I'd flag a different moderator and ask them to respond. You don't have to actually engage if you're worried someone will raise your blood pressure. That's why you need a team. And communciation!
but if you called them a name
The post was called "Delusional mod rule", not sure if that qualifies as a name in this case
Oh I remember that!
Oof. Yeah. Well, I feel like this was probably a PTB sitch but also one we could easily see coming. They can't have you commenting in their domain and showing people the mistakes they made.
In the meantime, I haven't seen them comment on what happened publically and not receive a ton of displeasure from the crowd. Any particularly loud voices are going to be targeted anyway they can be, and yours, being that you posted to YPTB (where they were again flamed in the comments) is an easy one to single out.
Feeling sorry for @[email protected] who wrote a long post with all the issues but never got any answer
Yes! This is exactly the thing. So if that user was like, more online, they might have followed those mods around asking them to answer this post. Then, they would have banned them for harassment, since they were following the mods around, and that would "solve" them never answering the big post.
Oh I'm on and watching. Just watching for now.
(I work from home and have a LOT of monitors in my office, so a single browser is easy peasy)
Edited to add: I'll be following up in the very same thread BTW. Just giving them a full day.
God I hope I'm there when it happens so I can post an image macro of Gandalf the White.
Its just ticking past 24hrs now, so I'll be commenting shortly (just have some work to do first)
That would be hilarious ha ha
They asked, I obliged.
I'm just glad I started with the quoted part, or it would have been an even longer comment without a reply!
Though I never expected an actual response anyway.
The whole thing was a mess, it's crazy 😄
Here's the thing - I'm on Lemmy a lot throughout the day, but I mostly just browse and upvote.
I like blahaj, was going to sign up there actually, but I think db0 is more aligned to me, so I'm staying here. That said, 196 was a fun, silly place to go to when I'm feeling overloaded/stressed/whatever, and its really pleasant to know it was a hate-free space. Just a little comfort spot of ridiculousness.
I'm only commenting a lot now because they are willing to let hate in (whether they realize that or not did not and does not matter). I'm glad to see so many others took issue in the same way.
coexistence? no. meme war. post more and better until victory!
I'm so glad this all worked out so smoothly. Whatever happens next, it makes me so happy to see that this community handled a difficult situation so well in so little time. That's definitely a good sign :3
It's quite reassuring about Lemmy and federation in general. Power tripping mods? Just move elsewhere in a few hours!
That's true, but what really impresses me is that the "new" 196 gained so much traction so quickly. Creating a new community is one thing, but so many people were immediately on board because they didn't like what the mods did to the "old" 196. Nobody was willing to take the mods' shit and that's very cool.
We've migrated so many times now .. what's one more
Haven't been on Lemmy in like a week, what happened?
The mods of [email protected] wanted to move the community over to lemmy.world without asking the users. They literally locked down the community and made a post saying "We moved." That didn't land well, [email protected] was created and quickly grew to a respectable size because lots of people wanted to stay on blahaj. The mods of the original 196 backed down and reopened the old community, but I don't know what's gonna happen next. Trust in the mods has been broken by that, though.
I'm sticking here. I don't care they backtracked.
If the original mods of [email protected] want to move to [email protected], then I think y'all ([email protected]) should get to take over [email protected]. It feels odd if the original 196 mods want to run both (unless there is a schism in the mids and they want to split).
Valid point, but it doesn't seem like they want to let go. They were probably thinking that they could force people to LW by keeping the Blahaj community locked, but now that everyone moved here, it's indeed a bit ridiculous.
Two competing standards there are now three competing standards.xkcd
I feel like in this case, it's more like one is Netflix, the two others are Peacock and Paramount Plus
Double the memes.
Shame that Ada had to split the community, but at least there will be more memes in the long run!