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I'm on mobile so I'm going to summarize a bit. On your first play through I'd really encourage just playing the way you want to play. Be that WT1, WT2 - doing side quests or focusing on main story. Just enjoy it!
The only thing I'd throw in there is that you do have to complete the campaign to unlock WT3 difficulty. If your 50 or getting close and haven't wrapped up the campaign, I would try to shift gears to wrap it up.
I keep hearing optimized is staying in WT1. That said, I've found WT2 more fun/challenging and would recommend for the first play-though. Plenty of time to go the "fast" route in future seasons, but that's just my opinion.
As a druid, I would advise against it. WT1 was hard enough for me personally.
Also playing Druid, lvl 35 at the moment. Haven't had too many problems myself, certainly challenging and forces you to think about gearing beyond "just use the highest ilvl". But I've also play a lot of Diablo 2/3 so that helps.
WT2 is not impossible for druid. It just felt very slow and clunky for me. That's why I stayed on WT1 for the whole campaign. I'm a D2 Veteran myself, but to be honest, I don't want to grind that hard anymore. Maybe getting old...
Rogue here, lvl 36 atm. I’ll say that with my build (enjoying the content, picking what sounds cool and “like my character would be”, not at all by any hard number analysis) WT2 has been really fun until I fight dungeon bosses, several of which (Blood Bishop 2, I’m looking at you) utterly murdered me.
For reference, I’ve beaten all but one of the major Elden Ring bosses (the king dragon), so it’s not about just being terrible at games or anything. And also this isn’t to say I finished ER with any skill or style, just a sort of benchmark.
So I guess I’m saying WT2 is mostly fine and fun but maybe ramps up in a way that starts to feel a little punishing to a casual, “enjoying the atmosphere and world” play style.
Maybe this is good because it forces me to think about things like elixirs and how my gear actually helps me win fights. Anyway. Hope this helps. 🍻
Imo, Rogue is significantly easier than Druid from 1-50.
I wouldn’t know, so I’ll trust your expertise in the area. I was just relaying my experience, which in the release version has only been rogue. 🍻
Agreed on WT2 making you think about things. I was playing a blood nec and just messing around for a while, but once it became a bit difficult I switched to bone/corpse explosion and started getting +vulnerable% gear and +crit damage gear cause it seemed the whole bone play style is based around that. The game is still challenging for me, but optimizing gear a bit along the way made it at least possible to beat some of the dungeons.
Thanks I appreciate the feedback
Wt2 is less optimized time wise, but way more fun for me as a diablo veteran.
You might be under leveled, but in wt2 I was 41 when I got to act 6, then just did a shit load of side quests to get 45, finished act 6 at 47, and now I'm doing side quests and whisper bounties till 50 to do the capstone. I think you're going to be slightly under leveled no matter what if you just do the campaign only.
Do the campaign and side quests, find gear along the way, then you can start real optimizing at 45+ imo.
FYI, you don't need to wait to 50 to do the capstone! It's just a recommendation. I beat it at 47 myself.
Good to know now that I spent a day or two doing tree of whisper bounties to get to 50 :)
At least I have a bunch of crafting/upgrading mats now..
I started on WT1 till after campaign. Farmed a bit gear, unlocked all Lilith statues, activated WT2 and did the capstone dungeon. Then I played exclusively on WT3. Am 56 right now. Feeling strong and want to do WT4, but that's a 70 capstone dungeon. A bit too high for me.
The world tier will depend on your class. I'm playing WT2 as a barb and it feels a lot like D2, which is exactly what I want. I have to hit things 3-4 times for them to die and the game is a lot slower than it would be on WT1.
The problem that comes from that slower/harder gameplay is that I can't kill the Butcher lol. I've seen him twice now before finishing Act 3 and I haven't even gotten close. Also, some events are hard to "master" for the bonus reward.
I'm sure anything besides a barbarian would be fine leveling on WT2 and you wouldn't even be able to tell a difference.
I'm pretty sad about the butcher thing, I've seen him 3 times so far and just gotten absolutely fucked on every time on WT2. Just not even close.
You're going to need to grind renown anyway. You should have all the skill points in all regions by the time you complete campaign, and that should leave you pretty close to the level 48 required to do capstone.
I think either is fine, if you just focus on the campaign and get each area to renown level 3 by the time you finish the campaign you’ll be near 50. And really - the campaign itself levels you quite a bit. Leveling really slows down after that. I would try the capstone dungeon as soon as you beat the campaign just to get a feel for it, I was 48 when I beat it.